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Re: What the hack roundup


From: Nick Drage <nickd () metastasis org uk>
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 11:23:03 +0100

On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 04:06:48PM -0400, Dave Aitel wrote:

What the Hack rocked. It was by far more awesome than I thought it
would be. First of all WTH is humongous. It was on a massive scale I
hadn't really experienced before. Second of all, it was remarkably
well run. It had a for-the-people-by-the-people atmosphere I've never
seen before. At no other conference are you going to get served drinks
by some of the best hackers you've ever met. And I don't mean
"hackers" in the same sense that small-minded people pretend to when
what they really want to say is "coders". Remember when hacking was
fun and not something you did just for cash? Apparantly everyone in
Europe does.

Seconded, it was an excellent contrast to Defcon this year.  While I
missed the sun and the casinos and the friends and the incessant clatter
of the slot machines it was good to be outside, with good people, in a
really chilled atmosphere.  And I did like the "by the people for the
people" idea, which I don't think would work at Defcon, and that worked
very well once people got past the initial "who wants to do what"
discussions.

o WTH had its own phone system. You could bring a phone (some standard
kind) or buy one there, and you'd have phone service wherever you
went.  People could call you on your phone from anywhere in the world
and it would get routed through the WTH pdx to you, sitting next to a
camp-fire drinking beer with THC people and watching the lights on the
spaceship.

This was impressive, while I unfortunately didn't have one of the
numbers that could be rang from outside, it was very cool ringing people
saying "I'm in a field, in Holland, calling you for free, because
someone else put some effort in".

<snip>

o EU Feds much better dressed than US feds.

I need some training, what do EU Feds look like.  Even I ( native
British ) can spot a US Fed at Defcon with a wallet in each back pocket,
no tan, crewcut, and hawaiian shirt, but an EU Fed?

o A military (NATO?) AWACs buzzed us for fun during lunch. As halvar 
said "I guess a lot of wireless boxes got popped just now". Who has an 
AWACs in the area?

I think it says on the Wiki that there's a military airfield a few miles
away at Eindhoven, the rather less glamourous explanation of that
plane's presence ;)

-- 
If your attack is going too well, you're walking into an ambush.
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