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Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages)
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 03:15:02 -0400
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:20:02 +0200, Martin =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ma=E8ok?= <martin.macok () underground cz> said:
IHMO 1: If your filter decides the message is not worth a delivery it's not worth a bounce too.
Not true, because...
IMHO 3: If user Joe gets 10 delivery failures of messages that he has not sent and one delivery failure of message that he has actually sent, it is worse than if he gets nothing.
It's not worse. That bounce message for the mail you actually sent may be very critical.... Consider the following scenarios: 1) You've been working on fixing a problem for 16 hours, and decide to call it quits and get some sleep, so you mail your boss and co-workers with a status update. 2) You make some trivial error (perhaps you type "steve. bill" rather than "steve, bill". 3) The mail of course has issues. With a bounce: 4) You get the bounce, say "D'Oh!", fix the problem, resend, and go home and get some sleep. Steve and Bill know the status, and finish fixing it and everything is fine. Without a bounce: 4) You go home, and the next morning the boss rips into you for not keeping everybody posted. Steve and Bill didn't see your note, and they've tried to clean up after you, and only making things worse because they didn't know about the stuff you told them in the note that bounced....
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- Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages) der Mouse (Jun 24)
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- Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jon Fiedler (Jun 19)
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- Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? John Fitzgibbon (Jun 24)
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- Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? The Fungi (Jun 25)
- RE: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Aaron Cake (Jun 18)
- Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 24)
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- Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages) Sean Straw / PSE (Jun 24)
- Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages) der Mouse (Jun 25)
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