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RE: Malware detection


From: Eric Krumm <ekrumm () commercemicro com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:23:08 -0400

Indeed, from my experience, MSSE runs far more efficiently than any of the popular/well marketed AV clients (Kaspersky, 
AVG, Symantec, Trend). Because of this, removing a competing product and replacing with MSSE vastly improves system 
performance (old or new). No toolbars/BHO, NDIS, "identity protection" or any other gimmicks is very appealing.

Also, on many occasions we have seen MSSE detect and successfully remove new malware that other products didn't even 
detect until their signatures included these programs - sometimes days later.

-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Walton
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:32 AM
To: Vic Vandal
Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Malware detection

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Vic Vandal <vvandal () well com> wrote:
Quotes and responses:

In closing, MS Security Essentials is not your best bet for identifying and defeating said malware.

Interestingly, Security Essentials has one of the better architectures with respect to ipc and process counts. For 
example, MSSE generally uses two processes (1 userland, 1 privileged) and has a minimal amount of handles shared 
between the two). It makes it difficult to attack the privileged component through userland via shared handles (Events, 
Mutexes, File, etc).

Other AV, such as TrendMicro or McAfee, can have 8, 10, or 12 processes in a system, and handle sharing was like an 
orgy. We found it very easy to attack privileged components through shared handles.
For example, we would accidentally shut down the firewall and update service while testing the scanner.

packetstormsecurity.org/files/100564/Old-Dogs-and-New-Tricks.pdf

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: Savvy95 () gmail com
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:50:44 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Malware detection

My 2 cents.....

If you are not looking for a "large robust solution" and you have
Windows, try a mixed solution of Microsoft Windows Security Essentials
for servers and workstations to detect and eliminate,

Windows inherent AppLocker for Windows 2008/Windows 7/Vista for whitelisting authorized apps.

For Windows XP, try Microsoft SteadyState to "freeze" the machine configuration and any changes are automaticallly 
removed on reboot. Note: It's been discontinued since 2011 and support for XP will be too in the near future.

I hope you don't have Windows 98/ME/NT/2000 in your environment as
there is no hope for you. ;-)

Security
Essentials:http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=520
1

Applocker (How to Guide):
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd723686(v=WS.10).aspx

SteadyState (search for the download) there is also a reference
document for all settings in SteadyState here:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b/springboard/archive/2010/09/27/st
eady-state-for-windows-7.aspx

You could use Microsoft System Center to what you want and more.

Good Luck

Glen Victor
CISSP, ITIL, CEH, MCT

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