Re: Home wireless free hotspot

["Johnathan" <martinez85 () att blackberry net>]

Signing a contract is not a legal agreement? There isn't any service provider that I am aware of that will just take 
your word for agreeing to their terms of services, terms and conditions and/or terms of use.  

I never said anything about breaking the law, the term legal does not always imply "breaking the law". Not fullfiling 
your end of a signed agreement may not be breaking the law, but in the states, many situations can be considered as 
breaking a legal agreement which could result in legal ramifications.

That's all I originally was saying. Anyway, I'm done with this topic and on the next one. Next time we hear some being 
prosecuted for committing some type of naughtiness over the wire (or over the air) we can all remember this thread, 
shake our heads and say I told you so.

Cheers =)

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Johnathan

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-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Mullins <steve.mullins.work () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:16:31 
To: <martinez85 () att blackberry net>
Cc: John Lightfoot<jlightfoot () gmail com>; <listbounce () securityfocus com>; <security-basics () securityfocus com>
Subject: Re: Home wireless free hotspot

Legally?  I'm not sure there is anything in the law against sharing an
internet connection (I'm fairly sure there is not).  This is not
really a legal question, other than potential questions of liability
for illegal acts commissioned via your open wireless connection.  Your
life will suck after that oh-dark-thirty no knock warrant is served,
innocent or guilty.

Now the terms of use from your service provider are another story.

Besides, sharing is Communism and that's just down right unAmerican.

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Johnathan
<martinez85 () att blackberry net> wrote:
> How sweet of you...
>
> Now matter how kind your intentions are, you may want to check the terms and conditions of the agreement of the 
> contract you hold with your service provider.
>
> You legally may not be allowed to do such a thing you are proposing.
>
> You may be aware of this already, just wanted to put it out there for others who may have the same mind set as you.
>
> ----
> Johnathan
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "John Lightfoot" <jlightfoot () gmail com>
> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:10:40
> To: <security-basics () securityfocus com>
> Subject: Home wireless free hotspot
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a home wireless network that I’d like to make available to neighbors
> who need to borrow a connection from time to time.  Consider it karmic
> repayment for the times I’ve had to borrow someone else’s open connection.
> Of course, I’d like to do it securely, so I’m looking for some advice.
>
> My main network has a wireless router connected to the Internet, with a few
> wired connections to my home computers.  The main router’s wireless network
> is protected by WPA, access control via MAC address, etc.  My thought is I
> would attach a second wireless router (Netgear) to a port off the main
> router and leave it unsecured, using a second subnet, and block any routing
> between the two subnets, other than straight out to the Internet, but I’m
> not sure the best way to do that.
>
> So, a few questions:
>
> If I set up a second router with a subnet “subservient” to my main router,
> presumably it has to get an IP address within the address space of the main
> network, but how can I limit access to that network to only my Internet
> interface?
>
> Would it make more sense for my secure network to be subservient to the main
> network, i.e. open up the main network and secure a secondary subnet off it?
>
> I also have a Secure Computing SG 300 Firewall/VPN appliance, could I
> configure that help keep the networks separate and my home network secure?
> It’s got a lot of nice features, but I’m not sure it would help make my
> configuration more secure.
>
> This may be a very bad idea, so I’d also be happy to hear why that’s so if
> it’s true.
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
>
> John Lightfoot
>
>
>
>
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