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Re: Security vs. Simplicity


From: Meenal Mukadam <meenal.mukadam () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 14:14:46 +0530

Dear Avi,

(Managerial style answer)

First you will have to have a clear understanding of:
1) Business objective
2) Client requirements
3) Concerned Assets
4) Current business scenario
5) Present state of Assets and controls in place
6) Tradeoff (between Simplicity & Security) expected and accepted

And then you can derive your answer. That is "Design that system
according to the simplicity principal" or  "Design that system
according to the security principal"

If you ask me, I would definitely say: "Why not try and get best of
both the worlds....extract details from your client what he/she really
needs....add implicit+explicit quality parameters (whatever your
business permits....and deliver.... "    :)


Regards,

Meenal A. Mukadam




On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:02 PM, avi shvartz <yram () netvision net il> wrote:

Hello list,



In a design process of a critical infrastructure system there is always a
tension between two tenets:

 The "simplicity tenet" - keep it simple as much as possible.

   And

 The "security tenet" - make it secure as much as possible.

I am perfectly aware of all risk evaluation and assessment, TCO calculations
etc, that suppose to

 help us all to reach a decision about "how much security" and "how much
simplicity".

But, we all know that gathering all relevant information and getting overall
agreement

 about them and about the calculations of the risk\tco calculations is not
"optimal" to say the least.

I am also aware to the statement : "simple design is also a secured design".

But, we all know that in real life the security folks wants to add "just
this extra layer (for security in depth)

 And\or "just this vlan (for yet another communication separation)" etc.

Don't get me wrong, I do understand that it's a valid concern,
 I just say that it's not always will be in line with the "simple" design
tenet.



Now, let's say that after all the technical discussions the two inflamed
opponents are in front of us
 (kind of real life situation.).



I would like to ask your opinion in the following way:

 Let say that you are the manager who have to say one statement (kind of a
bottom line):
  "Design that system according to the simplicity principal"
  or

  "Design that system according to the security principal"

 I would humbly ask for an answer in a "managerial style":
  first : what will be that bottom line.
  second: (kind of appendix.) any explanation that you wish to add.



Than you all for your kind attention,

Avi






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