Re: Judge orders defendant to decrypt PGP-protected laptop - CNET News

[Kurt Buff <kurt.buff () gmail com>]

Under normal circumstances, you are correct.

However, when dealing with the rough (!) equivalent of the KGB, Stasi,
whatever, you're playing a different game.

Just saying.

Kurt

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 17:04, Craig S Wright
<craig.wright () information-defense com> wrote:
> 10 years plus The original charge or even more
>
> Basically the jury can be instructed to treat the destroyed evidence as
> containing the most highly incriminating evidence possible.
>
> It is never better to destroy evidence
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 20/03/2009, at 10:23, Kurt Buff <kurt.buff () gmail com> wrote:
>
> > While true, the penalty for doing this may be much less than the
> > penalty that would be imposed if the data is sufficiently
> > embarrassing.
> >
> > Kurt
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 14:01, Craig S Wright
> > <craig.wright () information-defense com> wrote:
> > > The intentional destruction of evidence is a crime.
> > >
> > > US law varies by state, but as an example, Australian federal law and
> > > Victorian state law would make this a criminal act that would itself be
> > > punished and also result in an instruction for the jury to treat the now
> > > unaccessable evidence as holding definstive proof of what you are being
> > > checked for in the first place.
> > >
> > > Your strategy makes you a criminal. It does not gain any benifit.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Dr. Craig S Wright LLM. GSE-Malware...
> > >
> > > On 18/03/2009, at 20:04, Aarón Mizrachi <unmanarc () gmail com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sábado 07 Marzo 2009 18:14:51 Shailesh Rangari escribió:
> > > > > Steve,
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree that their is a real possibility that a said user may forget
> > > > > the password owing to numerous reasons,
> > > > > But I am not aware of any technique that can prove beyond a reasonable
> > > > > doubt that the user has really forgotten his password or is pretending
> > > > > it to avoid a sentence.
> > > > > Seems like the case is bound to set a precedent in the interpretation
> > > > > of this law. Any which ways it would be worthwhile to observe whether
> > > > > the US courts follow a similar course of action as their UK
> > > > > counterparts.
> > > >
> > > > two factor authentication with micro-sd memory card that you preserve
> > > > all
> > > > the
> > > > time with you, and can be eated when you feel angry, or can be
> > > > incinerated
> > > > if
> > > > you smoke it on a cigar, or simply drop it. this sd memory card will
> > > > contain
> > > > bootstrap and encrypted key for two-factor cypher.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Cigar_tube_and_cutter.jpg
> > > > (Over 200 celsius degrees!!!)
> > > >
> > > > Then, the hardrive will only contain: RANDOM DATA.
> > > >
> > > > This is plausible?, this could be insulting for the judge, but, you must
> > > > allegate that before the raid, you do an "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sda1"
> > > > for a
> > > > mantainance pourporse from a live cd... (i really didit before sell my
> > > > harddrive to prevent credit card and other private info leakeage).
> > > >
> > > > Look at:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jan/08/hard-drive-security-which
> > > >
> > > > This is plausible. You didn't consider your hard-drive as evidence
> > > > before
> > > > the
> > > > judge starts, because you never didit anything barely legal.
> > >
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