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Re: looking for a hub or switch that can connect a VPN and apply firewall rules to all ports


From: Thomas Anderson <zelnaga () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:27:02 -0500

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Justin Mitchell<jgmitchell () gmail com> wrote:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Thomas Anderson<zelnaga () gmail com> wrote:
Right now, I have maybe 10-20 computers plugged into a VPN enabled
router.  Problem with this setup is that if one computer behind the
router does something "bad" all the computers behind the router suffer
the consequences if the ISP decides to disable the connection,
temporarily or otherwise.  Normally, the way to work around this would
be to just get a hub or a switch and connect through that, however, if
that's done, all the computers would have to have VPN software
installed on them and managing 10-20 computers is much more of a
logistical challenge than managing one router.

The ideal solution, it seems to me, would be a switch that connects
each port, individually, to the VPN.  If firewall rules could be
applied universally to all ports, as well, that'd be helpful.

Any ideas?

You are going to have this problem regardless, using a single shared
connection for 10-20 computers. To prevent a single computer from
affecting the others would require each computer to have it's own
dedicated connection to the internet.

That's what I'm proposing.  I just don't want to have to setup 10-20
computers, individually, on a VPN - I'd much prefer to have some
single device route traffic for all of those 10-20 computers as
appropriate.  ie. I could have 10-20 routers configured in the same
way and each computer plugged into it's own router but that would
still be 10-20 devices to manage.  Granted, that would be easier than
reinstalling VPN software every time a computer gets reformated, but
still.

I don't get internet access through a cable modem, DSL modem, or
anything like that - I get it through a single 100mbit ethernet
connection.  The router has its own IP address assigned through DHCP
and if I had the computers connected to a hub instead of a router it
would be each of the 10-20 computers that would be doing the DHCP
request instead - not the router.

I could plug a hub into the router and replug all the computers on the
LAN to the hub.  Once that's done, I could use promiscuous mode on a
dedicated computer to police the network, myself, and although that
would have some merit, it wouldn't solve the problem at hand unless I
were using the exact same rules my ISP was and for some reason, I
don't think my ISP's going to be *that* helpful.

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