Re: Denied the CISSP, what are oher options

[Jason <securitux () gmail com>]

Hi Erika, experience actually does count for a lot. As someone who
does help employ security professionals I am far more interested in
experience than how many letters people tattoo after their name. All
you need is that interview to show that experience. The problem is
that companies often look for these certs and then do the interview,
then find out after they got people who exam cram and get the letters
but turn out to be 1/10 of what they expected. Unfortunately that's
more the rule than the exception. I could go on a tyraid but I won't
in the interest of brevity :)

I would call ISC2 like others suggested, I don't know the
circumstances of your situation but browsing facebook at the company
might be an ethics violation to THEM but it falls more under policy
violation (if the policy was even written down) than ethics. I
honestly don't think ISC2 will care.

Failing that I would say apply anyway. The worst they can do is not
interview you, which is where you're at anyhow. They might notice your
experience and say 'well, no CISSP but has excellent knowledge and
experience' and you get your interview.

FYI I have all 3: CISSP, CISA, and CEH. CISA would be worth your time
for sure. CEH is supposedly improved from when I took it (thank god)
so it might be worth a shot as well, if pen testing is of interest to
you.

I have a few SANS ones and they are by far the best in my opinion.
Gold level where you have to do a practical weeds out the exam
crammers and keeps the certification valuable.

-J



On 22 May 2008 23:49:17 -0000, Erika_cissp () yahoo com
<Erika_cissp () yahoo com> wrote:
> Due to a facebook "breach of ethics" violation at work I don't think I will be getting this cert due to the code of 
> ethics associated with the CISSP.
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>
> I'm middle aged and have reservations about going back for a 4 year degree. Most postings for security analysts want 
> a CISSP or a degree. I have  4 years solid experience, but that doesn't count for much these days.
>
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> What suggestions can anyone give me for other certs that will help get a better job? The MCSE security cert? CCNP 
> security? Security+ ? Are any of these going to get me anywhere further in my career? I don't have the cash for the 
> SANS as I live outside the US.