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Re: DNSs, MXs and RBLs....


From: Ned Fleming <ned () kaw us>
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:35:05 -0500

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:26:19 +0100 (CET), "Santiago Barahona"
<sant-bar () dsv su se> wrote:

Once upon a time, there were two companies that created one new entity
(let's say 50-50)... one of them provides the IT infrastructure and the
other "the name" (i guess): it is company A's mail servers, and company
B's domain name...

Since the new users will be in company A's infrastructure, their mailboxes
will be hosted in company A's mail servers... but the domain name will be
controlled and hosted by company B... to do this someone has suggested to
company B to modify their DNS entries to point to company A's domain
name....

OK, you have three zone files: oldcoA.com, oldcoB.com, and newco.com. 


So when a MTA tries to reach user () newco com, it will find in Company B's
DNS that it points out to companyA.com, then it will go ask a DNS who is
companyA.com and deliver the mail... (tell me if I'm wrong)...

Whoever controls the DNS zone file for newco.com will control the IP
address for the MX record(s) for that domain. That IP address might be
at oldcoA or oldcoB or somewhere else.

Now, if user () newco com is an alias for rumpelstiltskin () oldcoA com, and
the email needs to go there, then you will need a map of some type
(depending upon your MTA, i.e., postfix, sendmail, etc.) that
redirects the email to its proper destination. Easy to do.

At first glance it looked OK but then it started to cause me trouble when
I thought about the case when the users of this domain start sending mails
because I think that company A's mail servers risk of being "black listed"
by some RBLs... if this happens not only the users of the new entity will
be percieved by spam but all users that use those servers...

Any light??... is it possible to get blacklisted this way??... do you have
any suggestions on how to avoid the risk??

I don't see how you can be blacklisted, unless one or the other of the
oldcos IP addresses was blacklisted to begin with, in which case it
could extend to email from newco.com

or should make a risk analysis and present it to management in order to
get it to be accepted or not??

If either of the oldcos is blacklisted, then this is a good idea.

Ned


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