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RE: When IT Manager breaks rules


From: "Robinson, Sonja" <Sonja.Robinson () fticonsulting com>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:38:56 -0400

You can dump your domain controller event logs using something like
dumpiest (you should probably be saving these anyway for SOX/HIPAA/GLBA
compliance).  Then search for the appropriate security event code on a
weekly basis.  Anyone who entered the items that were unauthorized get
investigated.  This should be a routine process.  Search for members
added, deleted, changed.  Search for group memberships added to see
whose rights were added and deleted and if appropriate (eg. who was
given rights they should not have been). Search for audit policy
changes, domain policy changes, etc.  If you review these items on a
routine basis it is an objective way to "catch" policy violations and
prove you are auditing and monitoring your systems.

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Subject: Re: When IT Manager breaks rules

Thinking on this further, you may even be able to skip the
VBScript/scheduled task thing...you *may* be able to do this with built
in M$ stuff.

I *think* you can set up an alert in Performance Logs and Alerts to fire
whenever an account is created. You'd want to monitor the "NTDS" object
for account creations.

The advantage to this would be less system resource use, as you wouldn't
have to periodically run a VBScript.

-Shawn

On Thu, 17 May 2007, Shawn wrote:

This should be very easy to implement. Perhaps the easiest solution:

1. Configure auditing via group policy to log an event each time a new

account is created.

2. Drop a VBScript in your domain controllers scheduled tasks that 
reads the security log and sends you an email each time an event is 
recorded for a new account creation.


We have a much more complex solution for the same issue here, using HP

OpenView...basically part of our enterprise wide centralized alert
system.
But you don't need a $60,000 piece of software to make this happen.

-Shawn




On Thu, 17 May 2007, WALI wrote:

Hi guys...an odd question here!! I am mad at my IT Manager, he is 
such a sissy!!

Being a internal security analyst in-charge, I want to enforce a few 
policies at help desk. One of them is, not to create any user account

unless an email arrives from HR to HelpDesk, informing of the user's 
badge ID, the department he/she belongs to. The status of employment 
and all those things. The procedures are in place but sometimes it so

happens that some Head of the Dept. or executive management calls up 
our IT Manager over the phone, or send him an email directly which is

then forwarded to our Help Desk incharge who is then left with little

options but to create the account without due processes. All policy 
compliance guidelines get thrown up in the air.

HelpDesk incharge is bound by his position to, not to defy IT manager

and he is scared to tell me (sometimes he does) that IT manager is 
forcing him to dilute the AD account creation policy.

I don't want to confront IT manager based upon inputs by Helpdesk 
guys but would rather put a mechanism in place, where I would 
automatically come to know, that an account has been created and I 
can ask helpdesk to provide proof of the email from HR arbitrarily
and then confront the manager.

I know some Audit trails can be put and they would appear under 
Security tab of Event manager ( or so I guess) but I need something 
more automated that would land in my mailbox.

Is this possible through any automated solution in AD of Windows
2003? 
Probably MOM 2005 or the types?
In case I chose to confront  HR Admin/ managers with a plea to stop 
sending such requests to our IT Manager and put their house in order,

what all genuine risks of 'not doing so' can I highlight? Ours is 
fairly large corporation employing about a 1000 people.







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