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RE: Protecting sensitive files on a Windows file server


From: "Beauford, Jason" <jbeauford () EightInOnePet com>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:18:06 -0400

RandyW wrote:
I don't want to sound like a crank here, but why would you not be
able to protect these files using standard NTFS/GPO/File permissions
on the files?  I've got some servers with highly sensitive files on
them and we've designed the permissions such that only those "need to
know" are even aware that they are there, much less can actually gain
access to them.     

This breaks down however, if Management won't agree to this kind of
forced limitation, or where the definition of "need to know" is the
"everyone" group...  

If someone has access to the file in order to try cracking the
passwords, then there isn't much you can do to stop them, as that may
require significant filesystem access as it is.  

Encrypted backups help there, in case of lost media, but when it
comes to windows, that nut is hard to crack.  Commerical encryption
may be the choice, but then again, you have to give the keys out to
those that "need" to gain access to these files.  If those systems
are compromised, so is your Crypto.    

Am I wrong here??

RandyW


This makes sense to me. 

Another idea is a separate network altogether where only the people that
need access to the files have access to the files, in addition to ACL's.

How about a small network on a completely different subnet.  Install a
second NIC in the appropriate workstations and connect that to the
second switch for that network.  Then, only the server that houses your
files and the workstations are plugged in there.

It's an more expensive solution, but if you control physical access to
the switch and to the PC's with access, then you're good.  Putting the
switch in a locked closet or server room is trivial.  And if you see
someone at a desk they shouldn't be, then you know there's a problem.
Of course you wont ALWAYS see that person, but at least you know, access
can only be gained from those specific workstations and end users aren't
hacking away during work hours from their desk.

Comments, Opinions?

JMB

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