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Re: chat logs
From: Dave Aronson <sfbasics2dave () davearonson com>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 19:04:29 -0400
"Beauford, Jason" <jbeauford () EightInOnePet com> wrote:
The below mentioned response states that we "are all overreacting" and that "this type of action might be warranted had an actual bomb been found, or went off." This is TOTALLY the wrong attitude. "Anyone remember J Edgar Hoover?", what is this about? Anyone remember COLUMBINE or 9/11.
Yes, we do. What would you like to point out as having been done, in reaction to either of those events, that would help one iota to prevent a repeat? You MIGHT be able to find an example or three, but it will make up, I am fairly sure, less than a percent of all the overreaction for which we have sacrificed not only many of our tax dollars but also much of our even more precious freedom. Don't just act, from a gut reaction of "OH MY GOD, WE HAVE TO DO ***SOMETHING***!!!" Think first. Think about what the threats are that you are trying to counter, whether the measures will be effective, and what side effects they will have. That is a REAL "security basic". Otherwise, you risk starring on http://www.stupidsecurity.com/ (a site I highly recommend to anyone involved in any way with security). That said, though, many of us DO agree on the point that parents have every right to poke around on the computers they bought for their minor children living with them. The government is a whole 'nother story, whether it's the computer of a child or adult, and we just want to put a fence around that slippery slope. (There's supposed to BE a fence already, called the Fourth Amendment, at least here in the USA, but....) -Dave
Current thread:
- Re: Re: chat logs, (continued)
- Re: Re: chat logs Greg Stiavetti (May 16)
- RE: Re: chat logs Bob Beck (May 17)
- Re: chat logs - moderator's note Kelly Martin (May 18)
- Re: Re: chat logs Steve (May 17)
- Re: Re: chat logs Greg Stiavetti (May 16)
- RE: chat logs Nick Kriger (May 13)
- RE: chat logs Keller, Tim (May 13)
- Re: chat logs Zaven (May 16)
- Re: chat logs Times Enemy (May 16)
- Re: chat logs Zaven (May 16)
- RE: chat logs aixroot (May 16)
- RE: Re: chat logs Beauford, Jason (May 17)
- Re: chat logs Dave Aronson (May 18)
- Re: chat logs Alexander Klimov (May 18)
- RE: chat logs Steve Bostedor (May 17)
- Re: chat logs Stian Øvrevåge (May 18)
- RE: Re: chat logs Joshua Berry (May 18)
- RE: Re: chat logs Melissa Fischer (May 18)
- Re: FW: Re: chat logs Jeff Smith (May 18)
- RE: Re: chat logs Stephen Alford (May 18)
- Re: chat logs John Blackley (May 18)
- RE: chat logs Chapman, Carol (May 18)
- RE: Re: chat logs Bundschuh, Anthony D (May 18)