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Re: PortFast Question
From: Maarten Claes <maarten.claes () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:56:54 +0200
This is indeed what portfast does. For example, when trying to boot off a PXE enabled NIC, the switch port hasnt yet come online due to the learning phase of STP. Result is that the PXE program's timer times out. Portfast solves this issue. Maarten. On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:44:29 -0500, jgrimshaw () asap com <jgrimshaw () asap com> wrote:
I don't think that's what Port Fast is. My impression of PortFast was to reduce the time that the Spanning Tree Protocol (STP) takes to bring a specific port online. One would utilize portfast for ports that have only hosts attached them (that is, destinations)--not switches and hubs. PortFast significantly reduces the delay of STP by not going through listening and learning steps--it goes straight to forwarding. The concept is that there is no reason to determine if a port block is required, because the port has been statically configured to expect a host to be connected to it. Thus the name Port Fast--it has nothing to do with the speed of the port, it has to do with the speed of the port coming online--it can reduce the time from 45 seconds to 15 seconds or less. Port speed negotiation would occur before the STP process began. Speed negotiation is taking place at layer 1, while the STP (and port fast) kick in at layer 2. It will be dynamic unless the hardware is set otherwise, and both ends need to be set the same way--dynamic or at a specific speed and duplex. Personally, I prefer to use statically defined speeds and duplexes for infrastructure equipment, and let the end user PCs sort it out for themselves dynamically. While there may be some issues with an auto setting, most users wouldn't notice the difference. LordInfidel () directionweb com 09/27/2004 09:16 AM To 'Josh Sukol' <secnews () gmail com>, security-basics () securityfocus com cc Subject RE: PortFast Question If I had to guess..... the proprietary hardware box is having a hard time using auto-negotiation. Here's what happens when you connect a device to a switch/hub, and both sides are set to auto-negotiate. The connecting device will try to connect at it's maximum speed and duplex. If the other side(in this case the switch) can understand the connecting device and hence agree at the speed and duplex, the connection is made. If it can not understand the connecting device, it says Hey I can't understand that connection request, try another... And they both go back and forth until a connection is made. Now there are times when a connection, "appears" to be made but you can not ping or it seems like the connection is really slow. That is because there are transmission errors due to the way each connection is expecting to receive the data. Now with portfast, you are removing auto-negotiation from the switch and you are telling the switch port "Do not attempt to auto-negotiate, assume the port is 100/Full and bring the port up as such". As far as protecting that port, you can lock that port down to the MAC address of the connecting device. Typically, for any static network device that you are using, (servers, routers, firewalls, etc), the network adapter on the device should be manually set for speed/duplex. Never leave it set to auto. -----Original Message----- From: Josh Sukol [mailto:secnews () gmail com] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 10:05 AM To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: PortFast Question I am running a small network using four Cisco Catalyst 2950 switches. I am in the process of configuring a new software package that uses some proprietary hardware that connects to the network via Ethernet. When plugged into the network the device would connect for a minute or two and than connectivity would drop (i.e. ping would fail, and the light on the switch would turn from green to amber) This pattern continued for as long as the device was plugged into the network. The cabling was checked and tested with other equipment and there were no other problems. After trying several other things I eventually started changing the ethernet port settings on the switch itself and found that by enabling portfast the device functioned fine. I have found very little information about port fast security issues. I was able to find and did read up on PortFast BPDU guard and potential DoS using malformed packets. Are there any other security issues that effect me enabling Portfast on specific ports that connect back to a single device? Are there any other ways to solve this problem that might allow me to sidestep this potential security issues all together? - Slightly Off Topic - If anyone knows why this behavior occurs and why enabling portfast fixes the connectivity issue I would be very interested to a hear an explanation. Thanks in advance for the wisdom! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Forensics Training at the InfoSec Institute. All of our class sizes are guaranteed to be 12 students or less to facilitate one-on-one interaction with one of our expert instructors. 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- PortFast Question Josh Sukol (Sep 24)
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- RE: PortFast Question Stephen W. Corey - 5535 (Sep 27)
- RE: PortFast Question Steve Fletcher (Sep 28)
- RE: PortFast Question LordInfidel (Sep 28)
- RE: PortFast Question JGrimshaw (Sep 28)
- Re: PortFast Question Maarten Claes (Sep 29)
- Re: PortFast Question Sec News (Sep 28)
- Re: PortFast Question Chris Moody (Sep 30)
- RE: PortFast Question David Gillett (Sep 29)
- RE: PortFast Question JGrimshaw (Sep 28)
- RE: PortFast Question Scherer, Brian (Sep 28)
- RE: PortFast Question LordInfidel (Sep 29)