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Re: RFMON detection
From: hax <uberhax () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:45:22 -0400
Curious; is it possible to remotely detect a sniffing wireless card that's in monitor mode?
The short answer is: no, it isn't. RFmon mode is simply making the card act like a radio, picking up all that's in the air. Because of this, sniffing with RFmon will show you all the packets going by without you being connected to any AP. You can't detect this, it's like asking if you can detect someone tuned to a certain radio station. Also, I'm yet to see a card that can transmit while in RFmon, so even if you try to do something that could be logged (making a connection to the AP), it won't work. Probe requests (the various *stumblers), however send out probe packets to see if any networks reply. Because this is a packet, even though there's no associating with the AP, the MAC will be attached and the probe attempt can be logged. A really good paper can be found here: http://home.jwu.edu/jwright/papers/l2-wlan-ids.pdf that discusses the fingerprints left from various probing programs. The paper also suggests ways of baiting RFmon sniffers to connect where they can be logged at L3, but I wouldn't recommend inviting trouble :) At any rate, RFmon isn't something that you can detect. Oh dear, I'm rambling again :/ --hax --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ethical Hacking at the InfoSec Institute. Mention this ad and get $545 off any course! All of our class sizes are guaranteed to be 10 students or less to facilitate one-on-one interaction with one of our expert instructors. Attend a course taught by an expert instructor with years of in-the-field pen testing experience in our state of the art hacking lab. Master the skills of an Ethical Hacker to better assess the security of your organization. Visit us at: http://www.infosecinstitute.com/courses/ethical_hacking_training.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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