RE: Re(2): Possible new virus?

["Wilcox, Stephen" <StephenWilcox () universalcomputersys com>]

Ok, I'm sure everyone has an opinion about Chris's original email.  It was his opinion on where he felt this email 
belonged, nothing more. The administrators of the mail list felt it could fall under this group so here it stays.  It 
seems to me everyone is getting off track.  Get back into focus and use this list for what it's intention is for. Help 
pointing people towards their resolution.  I see more and more people wanting to run someone through the mud on their 
opinion then time spent on the issues of the original post.

With that said...

I would take a road trip and verify the machines sounds and entirety is in fact "Good Working Condition".

Run the test as some have pointed out. 

It much harder to correctly resolve issues when it comes from a third party.

I wish you good luck in your search for resolution to you problem

Stephen
R&D Systems Network Specialist



-----Original Message-----
From: Lee Rich [mailto:lee.rich () wlga gov uk]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 4:08 AM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re(2): Possible new virus?


Chris, in a later posting, Matt has stated that 'another' machine has been reported to have the same symptoms; these 
machines may be just a small handful of machines who have the same problem but have not been reported yet due to the 
area covered by 'Internet' Technical support.

Also, the idea that the message and beeping may be a red herring should not be cast aside. For all these systems to 
suffer the same fault dispite manufacurer or warranty state. Seems a little iffy to me andI wouldn't be surprised if 
there is actually nothing wrong with the cooling system. Saying it's a hardware problem would assume that each firmware 
reports an identical message for the problem. Not to mention that some firmware may not even be able to report such an 
issue.

-Lee Rich
security () wlga gov uk

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Berry <compjma () hotmail com>
To: security-basics () securityfocus com <security-basics () securityfocus com>
Sent: 10/09/2003 23:51
Subject: Re: Possible new virus?


> From: "Lee Rich" <lee.rich () wlga gov uk>
> > "I'm not sure how it made it on to the list"
>
> And please don't forget, this is 'security-basics'.. which means to me, 
> that it's not all security experts
> here, it's people breaking into the field aswell. So you should expect 
> questions that may be simple to
> yourself, but to others, it's part of a learning curve.

Oh, I wasn't complaining because it was basic, I was complaining because 
it's not a security issue.  To the best of my knowledge (which on this 
particular subject is fairly extensive since I'm originally from a hardware 
background), there is no possible way for software to interfere with the CPU 
cooler no matter how malicious it is, there just isn't any interface.  
(though I suppose if you had a motherboard with variable fan speed control 
and you somehow got an infected firmware update for your BIOS, then maybe, 
but thats a real long shot)  However, as always I'm willing to fess up if 
I'm wrong, is there anyone here who knows differently?  I'd be happy to help 
the original poster, I was just trying to point out that this isn't the 
correct forum for hardware questions.

Chris Berry
compjma () hotmail com
Systems Administrator
JM Associates

"Conciousness: that annoying time between naps."

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