RE: ICMP (Ping)

["Jay Woody" <jay_woody () tnb com>]

Tim,

Last time I promise here man.  Obviously you and I don't agree on it. 
I explained why I feel the way that I do and now you and everyone else
are free to decide how you want to handle it.  This is a basics list
where people are supposed to share ideas and learn how to set up their
stuff.  A place to ask questions without being slammed.  I guess it all
boils down to that most people would agree that there is nothing
inherently wrong with denying pings (unless obviously it is your only
answer to security) and it may buy you some blocks.  You and I are
debating how much, but to each his own.  You've pretty much turned every
note I've typed into a line by line rip up and it has gotten pretty
petty and basically impossible to follow or respond to the myriad of
stuff now.  I've tried to speak to you from my experience and offer the
experience of others, you claim your experience is different.  Great! 
Cool!  Everyone should be aware that not everyone sees the same thing. 


The way that you have responded to the previous notes have pretty much
made the thread impossible to follow now anyway, so I'll bow out here. 
I can't bring myself to take the time to get through the personal stuff
and respond t the technical any more, so it is pretty useless at this
point to try.  I think even you would agree that dropping ICMP stops
some scans.  Period.  Maybe 1, maybe 10,000 (my guess is that the number
is somewhere in between :).  To some, stopping that one may be worth it.
 To some stopping 10,000 may not be worth it.  Everyone has to make that
choice.  You've done nothing to sway me and I have done nothing to sway
you, so enough with the petty stuff.  Man, you asked why would some
people do it and I told you why some people do.  If you didn't want the
answer don't ask the question.  Especially on a basics list man.  Most
of this list is here to learn, not get ripped.  We don't want them
scared to ask man, encourage it.

Like I said, you may not agree with it, but you asked and I attempted
to answer it.  Sorry it didn't seem to meet up to your standards, but
perhaps a basics list is not the right place to hammer this one out. 
People should feel comfortable to ask and answer on a list like this
without it getting weird that fast.  Good luck and see you around man.

JayW


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