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RE: Any good method to check network overload?


From: "David Gillett" <gillettdavid () fhda edu>
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:47:42 -0800

  I work with some routers which do not handle overloads well.

  However, they at least follow the principle that ICMP traffic takes
low priority, so as the traffic load increases, their response to 
direct pings becomes slower and slower.  At some point short of total
overload, they no longer have enough spare capacity to answer pings 
at all.

This suggests that if ping times are consistently more than some value,
or are timing out, then the network is probably overloaded.  (Pings 
will also time out if the router is down, but you probably want to alert
for that, too.  If you need to distinguish between the two cases, compare
pings OF the router with pings THROUGH the router.)

David Gillett


-----Original Message-----
From: swin [mailto:swin () student dlut edu cn]
Sent: March 2, 2003 23:56
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Any good method to check network overload?


Hello!

      I am doing researtch on protecting system from DDoS
attacking,in
my researth work ,there is a part is to find network is overload and
raise alarm .
      Here ,network overload means in certain  time ,network is very
busy ,servers or network equipment can not deal with so much request
and make the entire network system very slow. As known ,when systems
are in DDoS attacking ,it can cause this situation,but also
when sometimes a lot of normal user are using the server
together ,it also
approach this situation.
      Right now, I do not care about what really cause this network
overload, alse if I am energetic enough I can take care of the
system 24 hours a day, but I want to use a program
automatically check this situation,when our system is in
overload,it can alarm.
      Before this I also thought some methods to check ,for example I
used to try to calculate the average load of the system and use this
value multiply certain coefficient as the systen's max load when
exceed this so call max load we consider it overload,but this method
I'm not satisfied .
      The second achive is to check server or network equipment's
network stack queue,if the queue is too long ,it represents the system
are too busy to deal with so much request,but I'm also not sure about
this method ,so I want know other's opinion.
      Alse if any others have better way to check this
overload ,I'm so
glad to hear it !
      Thanks in advance!
    
      Swin. wang



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