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RE: Distinctions in Certification


From: Dustin Howard <dwhoward () cableaz com>
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:26:26 -0700

Well said!  Exactly the way I think of most degrees and\or certs (of which
I hold a few).  Of course, this opinion of degrees mainly applies to IT
type degrees.  However, while at DefCon last week, I got handed a brochure
for the University of Advancing Technology (www.uat.edu).  I pocketed it
and read it only this week.  It's actually kind of interesting.  A student
can obtain a 4 year (regionally accredited) degree in a number of areas,
including Graphics, E-Commerce, Software Engineering, and yes, Network
Security.  Now, I'm not validating the value of this curriculum or the
school...never been there.  But, it was interesting to see SOMEONE moving
into at least current technologies as a part of their every day curriculum
in IT...when I went to school, the courses I took versus what was in this
curriculum (again, assuming it is as good as it looks) is a night and day
difference...


At 05:28 PM 8/13/2003 -0500, Jaymz Ringler wrote:
I agree.  I've had a few employees and interns that have certs, such as
a 2k pro MCP.  One of which I went to school with in the same
classes...  and he didn't know how to add a user.

I've come to find that even someone with a bachelors degree in IT has no
clue what a subnet mask is for.  They remember reading about them..

Degrees and Certs don't mean anything other than they can absorb some
information and retain it to take a test.  The Hands On Experience is
everything.



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