Re: v2.8.4 incorrect logging to MySQL

[Loyal A Moses <loyalmoses () mac com>]

Was that sarcasm?

Cause I think I might know the facility you are talking about. ;-)

On Apr 14, 2009, at 3:08 PM, JJ Cummings wrote:

> I am pretty sure that this clearly states the source will be  
> completely closed... i.e. transcribed into ancient  Egyptian, sealed  
> with the seal of the Royal Pig, locked in a vault with 10' thick  
> walls.. buried deep within an undisclosed NBC facility that has a  
> large detail of highly trained special ops guards on duty...... right?
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:51 PM, pieter claassen <pieter () claassen co uk 
> > wrote:
> This is from the license file included in snortsp-3.0.0b3:
>
> * The Snort Security Platform and its included engine module software
> * ("Snort") is the copyrighted work  of Sourcefire, Inc. (C) 2007-2008
> * Sourcefire, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.  This program is free  
> software; you
> * may use, redistribute and/or modify this  software only under the  
> terms
> * and conditions of the GNU General Public License as published by  
> the Free
> * Software Foundation; Version 2 with the clarifications and  
> exceptions
> * described below.
> ...
>
> Are you saying there is something else happening here?
>
> Pieter
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Loyal A Moses <loyalmoses () mac com>  
> wrote:
> >
> > Marty,
> >
> > Do you mean open source as in GPL or equivalent or as in we can all
> > read the source?
> >
> > A quote from you:
> >
> > "We're also saying that people who want to
> > contribute code to the project do so with the knowledge that we're
> > going to consider the code as assigned to Sourcefire unless other
> > arrangements are made."
> >
> > That doesn't sound so "open source" to me and more like a charade.
> >
> > And another quote in the same posting by you:
> >
> > "Given that we need to be able to offer Snort under an alternative
> > license for commercial integrators who are integrating Snort and
> > don't want to adhere to the GPL it's essential that we retain the
> > right to relicense the totality of the codebase."
> >
> > Now, there is the real reason.
> >
> > Just be direct and communicate that version 3 will not be GPL and
> > Sourcefire will now retain all rights. Unless you plan on having two
> > source branches with zero intellectual-property cross over and
> > licensed independently.
> >
> > I am not hostile towards the concept. The concept is business and it
> > is what it is.
> >
> > Loyal.
> >
> > On Apr 14, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Martin Roesch wrote:
> >
> >> Snort 3.0 is open source.
> >>
> >> Marty
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Loyal A Moses <loyalmoses () mac com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Snort is open source, until version 3. But that is a whole other
> >>> argument.
> >>> On Apr 14, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Joel Esler wrote:
> >>>
> >>> No one is taking a vote, we just said, "if we had a vote in it..."
> >>> I'd
> >>> rather take the code out of the IDS/IPS and put it into an output
> >>> module.
> >>>  One that is maintained well (as Shawn said).
> >>> Snort is an open source program, I don't see harm in discussion on
> >>> Snort's
> >>> own mailing lists do you?
> >>> J
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Loyal A Moses  
> <loyalmoses () mac com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Is Sourcefire limited on development skill or man power?
> >>>>
> >>>> It makes no sense at all to remove one of the most common  
> facilities
> >>>> in use by snort users because it is "too complex".
> >>>>
> >>>> In the end, you'll do what you are going to do regardless of the
> >>>> community -- we've seen it before. But don't use "complexity" and
> >>>> "bugs" as the excuse.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sourcefire is a publicly traded company -- Is it smart to be  
> taking
> >>>> votes on product development from a mailing list? I wouldn't  
> think
> >>>> so.
> >>>>
> >>>> Loyal.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Apr 14, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Jason Brvenik wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I have an ulterior motive and it is simple.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many of the bugs and issues over time with snort have been in
> >>>>> output
> >>>>> plugins. Make one well supported, tested, unified method  
> designed
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> best performance and while doing so it improves the
> >>>>> supportability and
> >>>>> maintainability of the code base.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Loyal A Moses <loyalmoses () mac com 
> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> My vote is to provide as many output options as possible, to  
> help
> >>>>>> keep
> >>>>>> snort used as a tool.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The argument of code complexity being a good reason to remove
> >>>>>> output
> >>>>>> facilities is only valid if the code is written poorly and not
> >>>>>> modular. This wheel doesn't need re-invented and this
> >>>>>> conversation is
> >>>>>> kind of silly, unless there is ulterior motives for actually
> >>>>>> wanting
> >>>>>> to remove this support.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Loyal.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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