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Could I use Java or c#? [was: Re: re-writing college books]
From: michaelslists at gmail.com (mikeiscool)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:07:42 +1100
And then there's "write once, run anywhere." Yeah ... right. I've run Java applets, and Javascript applets, and the latter are vastly superior for performance, and worse, all too often the Java applets are not "run anywhere", they only run on very specific JVM implementations.
You really can't judge java based on java applets; they are a really poor front, for reasons I assume you are aware.
There's the nice property that bytecode can be type safe. I really like that. But the bytecode checker is slow; do people really run it habitually? More important; is type safety a valuable property for *untrusted code* that you are going to have to sandbox anyway?
I believe major application servers run with -verify, which is appropriate and useful for them.
So I give up; what is it that's so great about bytecode? It looks a *lot* like the Emperor is not wearing clothes to me.
I think you just want to see him that way ;)
Crispin
-- mic
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