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Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block
From: "Abraham Y. Chen" <aychen () avinta com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2024 23:16:57 -0500
Hi, Forrest:1) " if you have IPv6 service and I have IPv6 service, our IPv6 devices can talk directly to each other without needing any VPN or similar. ":
Thanks. So, is it true that the reason IPv4 could not do so is solely because it does not have enough static addresses for every subscriber?
2) " ... taking other security/safety steps. (Like the PSTN, the internet can be tapped). ":
Agreed. However, the extra steps should be for those who have some secret to hide. In the PSTN days, most traffic was voice and no encryption. For the Internet, everything is digitized. Distinguishing among voice and data becomes extra work. So, I see the tendency to encrypt everything.
Regards, Abe (2024-01-18 23:15) On 2024-01-16 01:38, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 1:21 PM Abraham Y. Chen <aychen () avinta com> wrote: If I subscribe to IPv6, can I contact another similar subscriber to communicate (voice and data) directly between two homes in private like the dial-up modem operations in the PSTN? If so, is it available anywhere right now?Yes, if you have IPv6 service and I have IPv6 service, our IPv6 devices can talk directly to each other without needing any VPN or similar. And yes, this is available today.Note that just like the PSTN you might not want to do this without encryption and taking other security/safety steps. (Like the PSTN, the internet can be tapped).
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- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block, (continued)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Giorgio Bonfiglio via NANOG (Jan 13)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Forrest Christian (List Account) (Jan 13)
- Re: IPv6 Adoption Incentives Giorgio Bonfiglio via NANOG (Jan 13)
- Re: IPv6 Adoption Incentives Dave Taht (Jan 13)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Brandon Butterworth (Jan 13)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Brett O'Hara (Jan 13)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Forrest Christian (List Account) (Jan 13)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Abraham Y. Chen (Jan 15)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Christopher Hawker (Jan 15)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Forrest Christian (List Account) (Jan 15)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Abraham Y. Chen (Jan 18)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jan 19)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Abraham Y. Chen (Jan 20)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jan 20)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Abraham Y. Chen via NANOG (Jan 24)
- RE: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG (Jan 14)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Brian Knight via NANOG (Jan 15)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Abraham Y. Chen (Jan 15)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block sronan (Jan 15)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block Abraham Y. Chen (Jan 15)
- Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block sronan (Jan 15)