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Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block
From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 11:05:19 -0800
On 1/15/24 12:26 AM, Saku Ytti wrote:
An ipv4 free network would be nice, but is hardly needed. There will always be a long tail of ipv4 and so what? You deal with it at your borders as a piece of non-recurring engineering and that is that. The mobile operators model seems to be working pretty well for them and seems likely that it is an opex cost down for them since they don't have to run two networks internally nor deal with the cost of ipv4 subnets (or at least not as much? not sure how it exactly works). Worrying about whether ipv4 will ever go away misses the point, imo.On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 10:05, jordi.palet--- via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:In actual customer deployments I see the same levels, even up to 85% of IPv6 traffic. It basically depends on the usage of the caches and the % of residential vs corporate customers.You think you are contributing to the IPv6 cause, by explaining how positive the situation is. But in reality you are damaging it greatly, because you're not communicating that we are not on a path to IPv4 free Internet. If we had been on such a path, we would have been IPv4 free for more than a decade. And unless we admit we are not on that path, we will not work to get on that path.
Mike
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- Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block, (continued)
- Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Ryan Hamel (Jan 12)
- IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Abraham Y. Chen (Jan 14)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Forrest Christian (List Account) (Jan 14)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Saku Ytti (Jan 14)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block jordi.palet--- via NANOG (Jan 15)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Saku Ytti (Jan 15)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block jordi.palet--- via NANOG (Jan 15)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Saku Ytti (Jan 15)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Christopher Hawker (Jan 15)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Michael Thomas (Jan 15)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Michael Thomas (Jan 15)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Saku Ytti (Jan 15)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Michael Thomas (Jan 16)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jan 16)
- Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jan 12)
- Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block borg (Jan 12)
- Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Michael Thomas (Jan 12)
- Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Seth David Schoen (Jan 12)
- Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Darrel Lewis (Jan 12)
- Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Michael Thomas (Jan 12)
- Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Abraham Y. Chen (Jan 13)