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Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block
From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 11:29:40 -0800
On 1/12/24 8:45 AM, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote:
Frankly, I care less. No matter how you use whatever IPv4 space you attempt to cajole into whatever new form of degraded service, the simple fact remains. IPv4 is a degraded technology that only continues to get worse over time. NAT was bad. CGNAT is even worse (and tragically does nothing to eliminate consumer NAT, just layers more disaster on top of the existing mess).I wonder if the right thing to do is to create a standards track RFC that makes the experimental space officially an add on to rfc 1918. If it works for you, great, if not your problem. It would at least stop all of these recurring arguments that we could salvage it for public use when the knowability of whether it could work is zero.The only currently available end to end peer to peer technology, for better or worse, is IPv6. Despite its naysayers, it is a proven technology that has been shouldering a significant fraction of internet traffic for many years now and that fraction continues to grow.You simply can’t make IPv4 adequate and more hackers to extend its life merely expands the amount of pain and suffering we must endure before it is finally retired.
Mike
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- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block jordi.palet--- via NANOG (Jan 15)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Saku Ytti (Jan 15)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Christopher Hawker (Jan 15)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Michael Thomas (Jan 15)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Michael Thomas (Jan 15)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Saku Ytti (Jan 15)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Michael Thomas (Jan 16)
- Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jan 16)
- Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jan 12)
- Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block borg (Jan 12)
- Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Michael Thomas (Jan 12)
- Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Seth David Schoen (Jan 12)
- Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Darrel Lewis (Jan 12)
- Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Michael Thomas (Jan 12)
- Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Abraham Y. Chen (Jan 13)
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- Root Cause Re: 202401102221.AYC Re: Streamline The CG-NAT Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Abraham Y. Chen (Jan 12)
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