Re: Guest Column: Kentik's Doug Madory, Last Call for Upcoming ISOC Course + More

[Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>]

Edward-

Tracker issues aside, as I called out earlier in the thread, by our own
rules the newsletters should not be sent to this list in the first place.

Citing NANOG Mailing List Usage Guidelines  (
https://www.nanog.org/resources/usage-guidelines/ ) :

Posts to NANOG’s Mailing List should be focused on operational and
> technical content only, as described by the NANOG Bylaws.
> Using the NANOG Mailing List as a source for private marketing
> initiatives, or product marketing of any kind, is prohibited.




On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 11:28 PM Edward McNair <emcnair () nanog org> wrote:

> Randy,
>
> We do not buy, sell or share any data or personal information on anyone.
> MailChimp is only used to get data points on the effectiveness of our
> newsletter. We also try to get data on the effectiveness of our social
> media efforts. We do not look at individual behavior, only group anonymous
> data. If you wish to by-pass the "trackers," just go to
> https://nanog.org/stories/ Anything that we send out in our newsletter or
> social media and be found there.
>
>
> *Edward McNair*
> Executive Director
>
> emcnair () nanog org
>
> On Sep 8, 2023, at 17:25, Randy Bush <randy () psg com> wrote:
>
> It is totally possible to turn off the spyware in MailChimp.  You just
> need to buy an actual commercial account rather than using their
> "free" service.  To save $13 or $20 per month, you are instead selling
> the privacy of every recipient of your emails.  See:
>
>  https://mailchimp.com/help/enable-and-view-click-tracking/
>
>  "Check the Track clicks box to enable click tracking, or uncheck the
>  box to disable click tracking.  ...  Mailchimp will continue to
>  redirect URLs for users with free account plans to protect against
>  malicious links.  ...  When a paid user turns off click tracking,
>  Mailchimp will continue to redirect their URLs until certain account
>  activity thresholds are met."
>
> Don't forget to turn off the spyware 1x1 pixel "web bugs" that
> MailChimp inserts by default, too:
>
>  https://mailchimp.com/help/about-open-tracking/
>
>
> as usual, the problem is not technical.  there is no need for mailchump
> at all.
>
> nanog management has made a very intentional decision to sell my
> privacy.  nanog has come a long way, not all of it  good.
>
> randy