Re: Guest Column: Kentik's Doug Madory, Last Call for Upcoming ISOC Course + More

[Eric Parsonage via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

Dear Edward 

I am Interested to know how you are avoiding sharing data with MailChimp? To use MailChimp you are sharing email 
addresses. Adding any features that give you feedback introduces spyware and it's this spyware that gives you your data 
points after it has shared those data points with MailChimp. Do you sincerely believe there isn't any sharing happening?

Regards

Eric Parsonage.

On 13 September 2023 12:56:37 pm ACST, Edward McNair <emcnair () nanog org> wrote:
> Randy,
>
> We do not buy, sell or share any data or personal information on anyone. MailChimp is only used to get data points on 
> the effectiveness of our newsletter. We also try to get data on the effectiveness of our social media efforts. We do 
> not look at individual behavior, only group anonymous data. If you wish to by-pass the "trackers," just go to 
> https://nanog.org/stories/ Anything that we send out in our newsletter or social media and be found there. 
>
>
> Edward McNair
> Executive Director
>
> emcnair () nanog org
>
> > On Sep 8, 2023, at 17:25, Randy Bush <randy () psg com> wrote:
> >
> > > It is totally possible to turn off the spyware in MailChimp.  You just
> > > need to buy an actual commercial account rather than using their
> > > "free" service.  To save $13 or $20 per month, you are instead selling
> > > the privacy of every recipient of your emails.  See:
> > >
> > >  https://mailchimp.com/help/enable-and-view-click-tracking/
> > >
> > >  "Check the Track clicks box to enable click tracking, or uncheck the
> > >  box to disable click tracking.  ...  Mailchimp will continue to
> > >  redirect URLs for users with free account plans to protect against
> > >  malicious links.  ...  When a paid user turns off click tracking,
> > >  Mailchimp will continue to redirect their URLs until certain account
> > >  activity thresholds are met."
> > >
> > > Don't forget to turn off the spyware 1x1 pixel "web bugs" that
> > > MailChimp inserts by default, too:
> > >
> > >  https://mailchimp.com/help/about-open-tracking/
> >
> > as usual, the problem is not technical.  there is no need for mailchump
> > at all.
> >
> > nanog management has made a very intentional decision to sell my
> > privacy.  nanog has come a long way, not all of it  good.
> >
> > randy