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Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine
From: Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 15:01:26 -0800
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 11:59 AM Scott McGrath <smcgrath () starry com> wrote:
Starlink however forgets that Russia does have anti satellite weapons and they probably will not hesitate to use them which will make low earth orbit a very dangerous place when Russia starts blowing up the Starlink birds. I applaud the humanitarian aspect of providing Starlink service, unfortunately there are geopolitical realities like access to space which is likely to be negatively impacted if and when Russia starts shooting down these birds. Fortunately if they start shooting down the birds the debris will burn up in a year or so unlike geosync orbit where it would stay forever.
Anti-satellite weapons hearken from the NASA-era of satellite launches, which cost hundreds of millions of dollars, were planned years if not decades in advance, and would take an equivalent amount of time and money to replace if shot down. Note SpaceX's response when 40 out of 49 satellites were fried shortly after launch due to recent solar activity: https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellites-lost-geomagnetic-storm Pretty much just a "ho hum, s**t happens, we'll make sure they burn up safely and don't hit anything on the way down." And then they launched another 46 birds three weeks later: https://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/launches-and-events/events-calendar/2022/february/rocket-launch-spacex-falcon-9-starlink-4-8#:~:text=Event%20Details-,Rocket%20Launch%3A%20February%2021%2C%202022%209%3A44%20AM%20EST,Falcon%209%20Starlink%204%2D8 and a week after that, launched another 50 birds: https://www.space.com/spacex-50-starlink-satellites-launch-february-2022 Sure, Russia could start shooting them down. But at the rate SpaceX can build and launch them, in that war of attrition, I'd put my money on SpaceX, not Russia--and it would let everyone in the world get a very detailed map of exactly what the capabilities and limitations of Russia's anti-satelite weaponry are as they fired it off dozens if not hundreds of times in a relatively short time period. I think people are just now waking up to how radically SpaceX has changed access to space. ^_^; Matt
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- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine, (continued)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Josh Luthman (Mar 01)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Phineas Walton (Mar 01)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Mike Hammett (Mar 01)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Stephen Strowes (Mar 01)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Josh Luthman (Mar 01)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Crist Clark (Mar 01)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Phineas Walton (Mar 01)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Scott McGrath (Mar 01)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Tom Beecher (Mar 01)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Dennis Glatting (Mar 01)
- RE: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Tony Wicks (Mar 01)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Matthew Petach (Mar 01)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Dorn Hetzel (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Valdis Klētnieks (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Michael Thomas (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Scott McGrath (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Thomas Scott (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Mike (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Karl Auer (Mar 02)
- RE: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Tony Wicks (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Eric Kuhnke (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Mike (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Phineas Walton (Mar 01)