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Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine
From: Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2022 17:27:31 -0800
I'm aware of the qualifications and level of knowledge in network security/cryptography that they hire for positions in Redmond at Starlink R&D. They are quite picky about who they hire. Highly doubt that anything that a 3rd party can do from outside of SpaceX's network is going to gain admin control over Starlink satellites. Attempt to jam them at the RF level, maybe. On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 15:40, Mike <mike+lists () yourtownonline com> wrote:
You guys are missing the obvious. Russia isn't going to attack starlink in space, they are going to take over it's command and control functions and deorbit the entire constellation without firing a shot. Same for China and N. Korea, which both already have ample motivation already to go after starlink because of the existential threat to the iron fisted control they exert over their populace and the free flow of information. So while musk may be able to fly 50 at a time and has his own launch capability, if the command and control facilities are hijacked, musk will run out of money putting it all back together. On 3/2/22 1:28 PM, Scott McGrath wrote: The Russians have several ASAT systems not all of them are ground based. Remember they also have that grappler which locks onto satellites and destroys them. I think this conflict will be the first one where some of the battles will be fought in orbit ie the ultimate ‘high ground’ the NATO countries have kept to the UN treaties on not militarizing space. Other countries well not so much On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 12:35 PM Valdis Klētnieks <valdis.kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 08:51:05 -0500, Dorn Hetzel said:Yeah, if Russia needs one 1st stage booster for every bird they kill,andSpaceX needs one 1st stage booster for every 50 they put up.... Yes, Russia is bigger than SpaceX, but that's a tremendous ratio.Plus the asymmetry is even worse than that.... Elon can use that *same* first stage booster to launch *another* 50 next week, while the Russians need to get a *new* booster for shooting down the next bird. That's the *real* game changer in what SpaceX is doing....
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- RE: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine, (continued)
- RE: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Tony Wicks (Mar 01)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Matthew Petach (Mar 01)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Dorn Hetzel (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Valdis Klētnieks (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Michael Thomas (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Scott McGrath (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Thomas Scott (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Mike (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Karl Auer (Mar 02)
- RE: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Tony Wicks (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Eric Kuhnke (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Mike (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine bzs (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Karl Auer (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine bzs (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine bzs (Mar 02)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Dorn Hetzel (Mar 03)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Matthew Petach (Mar 03)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine Scott McGrath (Mar 04)
- Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine nanog08 (Mar 01)