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Re: Juniper hardware recommendation
From: Saku Ytti <saku () ytti fi>
Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 11:38:43 +0300
Hey Michael,
If accurate interface stats are important to you, MX’s don’t support accurate SNMP Interface Utilization, ie they don’t comply with RFC2665/3635, which seems like a fairly basic thing to do but they decided not to, and has been impactful to me in the past. So, any SNMP monitoring of an interface will always show less utilization than what is actually occurring, possibly leading to a false sense of security, or delay in augmentation. Would also affect usage based billing, if you do that.
Juniper has worked like this since day1 and shockingly the world doesn't care, people really don't care for accuracy. CLI and SNMP are both L3. If you want to report L2 'set chassis fpc N pic N account-layer2-overhead'. However, who decided that L2 is right? To me only L1 is right, I don't care about L2 at all. So any system I'd use, I'd normalise the data to L1. Ethernet on minimum size packets L1 - 100% L2 - 76% L3 - 24% Not sure why 76 is better than 24. Both are wrong and will cause operational confusion because people think the link is not congested. This is extremely poorly understood even by professionals, so poorly that people regularly think you can't get 100% utilisation, because you can't unless you normalise stats to L1 rate. -- ++ytti
Current thread:
- Re: Juniper hardware recommendation, (continued)
- Re: Juniper hardware recommendation Mark Tinka (May 10)
- RE: Juniper hardware recommendation aaron1 (May 10)
- Re: Juniper hardware recommendation Mark Tinka (May 10)
- Re: Juniper hardware recommendation Mark Tinka (May 10)
- Re: Juniper hardware recommendation Baldur Norddahl (May 10)
- RE: Juniper hardware recommendation Michael Fiumano (May 14)
- RE: Juniper hardware recommendation Adam Thompson (May 14)
- Re: Juniper hardware recommendation Jason Healy (May 16)
- Re: Juniper hardware recommendation Colton Conor (May 16)
- Re: Juniper hardware recommendation Mark Tinka (May 16)
- Re: Juniper hardware recommendation Jon Lewis (May 16)
- RE: Juniper hardware recommendation Adam Thompson (May 14)
- Re: Juniper hardware recommendation Mark Tinka (May 15)
- Re: Juniper hardware recommendation Saku Ytti (May 15)