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Re: Partial vs Full tables
From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 11:52:26 -0400
Agree with Mike on looking at communities first. Depending on the provider, that could be a very nice tool, or completely worthless. For your planned idea on smaller "regional" nodes, you could do something like :"default || ( customer && specific cities/states/regions/countries )" , d I would definitely make sure you consider what your fallback options are in case of partitions as Bill mentioned in another reply. The less routes you have to start with the harder it gets though. On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:19 AM Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:
Maybe instead of transit + 1, you use communities to just allow all customer prefixes, regardless of how deep they are. Obviously that community would need to be supported by that provider. I've been wondering a similar thing for how to take advantage of the 150k - 250k hardware routes the CRS317 now has in v7 beta. That many routes should cover the peering tables for most operators, maybe even transit's customers. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ------------------------------ *From: *"James Breeden" <James () arenalgroup co> *To: *nanog () nanog org *Sent: *Thursday, June 4, 2020 10:00:51 PM *Subject: *Partial vs Full tables I have been doing a lot of research recently on operating networks with partial tables and a default to the rest of the world. Seems like an easy enough approach for regional networks where you have maybe only 1 upstream transit and some peering. I come to NANOG to get feedback from others who may be doing this. We have 3 upstream transit providers and PNI and public peers in 2 locations. It'd obviously be easy to transition to doing partial routes for just the peers, etc, but I'm not sure where to draw the line on the transit providers. I've thought of straight preferencing one over another. I've thought of using BGP filtering and community magic to basically allow Transit AS + 1 additional AS (Transit direct customer) as specific routes, with summarization to default for the rest. I'm sure there are other thoughts that I haven't had about this as well.... And before I get asked why not just run full tables, I'm looking at regional approaches to being able to use smaller, less powerful routers (or even layer3 switches) to run some areas of the network where we can benefit from summarization and full tables are really overkill. *James W. Breeden* *Managing Partner* *[image: logo_transparent_background]* *Arenal Group:* Arenal Consulting Group | Acilis Telecom | Pines Media PO Box 1063 | Smithville, TX 78957 Email: james () arenalgroup co | office 512.360.0000 | www.arenalgroup.co
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- Re: Partial vs Full tables Joe Greco (Jun 08)
- Re: Partial vs Full tables William Herrin (Jun 08)
- Re: Partial vs Full tables Mike Hammett (Jun 08)
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- Re: Partial vs Full tables William Herrin (Jun 08)
- Re: Partial vs Full tables Josh Hoppes (Jun 08)
- Re: Partial vs Full tables Anoop Ghanwani (Jun 08)
- Re: Partial vs Full tables Saku Ytti (Jun 08)
- Re: Partial vs Full tables Mike Hammett (Jun 06)
- Re: Partial vs Full tables Mark Tinka (Jun 09)
- Re: Partial vs Full tables Tom Beecher (Jun 05)
- Re: Partial vs Full tables Baldur Norddahl (Jun 05)
- Re: Partial vs Full tables Ryan Rawdon (Jun 06)
- Re: Partial vs Full tables William Herrin (Jun 10)
- Re: Partial vs Full tables William Herrin (Jun 10)
- Re: Partial vs Full tables Brian Johnson (Jun 10)
- Re: Partial vs Full tables William Herrin (Jun 10)