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Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential
From: Dan Wing <danwing () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 11:22:15 -0800
There are choices, such as making connection initiation, connection acceptance, and connection termination parsable by network elements on the path so state can be established, maintained, and cleared, DoS can be identified, and so on. The decision was to hide all that from network elements. -d
On Feb 20, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew () matthew at> wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 8:10 AM Ca By <cb.list6 () gmail com <mailto:cb.list6 () gmail com>> wrote: Not indiscriminate. As Google was informed by network operators all along since 2014, ipv4 UDP is a major uptime threat via DDoS to access networks. ... Google choose not to be sensitive to that, they were told where the landmines were, they choose to go on anyhow. It isn’t like they had a choice. You can’t build a transport protocol like QUIC on top of TCP (I know, I built one of its ancestors, which also uses UDP underneath). And if you think getting UDP through existing networks is hard, try using a novel IP protocol number. Matthew Kaufman
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- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential, (continued)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Tom Beecher (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Ca By (Feb 20)
- RE: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Keith Medcalf (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Dave Bell (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Aled Morris via NANOG (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Ca By (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Dave Bell (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Blake Hudson (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Ca By (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Matthew Kaufman (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Dan Wing (Feb 21)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Jared Mauch (Feb 21)
- Re: [External] Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Hunter Fuller (Feb 21)
- Re: [External] Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Ca By (Feb 21)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Łukasz Bromirski (Feb 21)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Matthew Petach (Feb 21)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Owen DeLong (Feb 21)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Paul Timmins (Feb 26)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Łukasz Bromirski (Feb 21)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Masataka Ohta (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Masataka Ohta (Feb 18)