nanog mailing list archives
Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential
From: Dave Bell <me () geordish org>
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:41:35 +0000
Not indiscriminate.
Indiscriminate - done at random or without careful judgement. Considering that Daniel is complaining that QUIC is broken, it certainly seems like some network operators are subjecting all UDP traffic on their network to the same policers. This feels pretty indiscriminate to me. I'm all for policing the known baddies, such as CHARGEN and NTP, but to discard UDP for fun is like taking a sledgehammer where a scalpel will do.
Access networks need controls to maintain uptime against the non-stop barrage of ddos attacks. I am sure you have seen the headlines and mails on this list, ddos is hard to deal with. Access network will use whatever tools are required to keep the pagers quiet and customers happy.
I operate an access network that does not blanket police UDP. Google give me a dashboard that tell me 45% of requests were served happily by QUIC, and I have no customers complaining about things not working, and our pagers are silent.
Current thread:
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential, (continued)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Daniel Sterling (Feb 19)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Mark Andrews (Feb 19)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Masataka Ohta (Feb 19)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Daniel Sterling (Feb 19)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Tom Beecher (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Ca By (Feb 20)
- RE: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Keith Medcalf (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Dave Bell (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Aled Morris via NANOG (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Ca By (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Dave Bell (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Blake Hudson (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Ca By (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Matthew Kaufman (Feb 20)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Dan Wing (Feb 21)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Jared Mauch (Feb 21)
- Re: [External] Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Hunter Fuller (Feb 21)
- Re: [External] Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Ca By (Feb 21)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Ćukasz Bromirski (Feb 21)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Matthew Petach (Feb 21)
- Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential Owen DeLong (Feb 21)