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Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that
From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:58:49 -0600 (CST)
I think a better point might be that there are many points involved in the network distribution of software. Each one of them is a source of congestion. It could be the 10 meg last mile to the home. It could be the console with single chain wireless at the opposite end of the house of the access point. It could be a congested CDN. It could be a congested peering or transit link. All suffer because of slopping coding and packaging choices. BTW: Other than game updates and multiple 4k video streams, very few need more than 20 megs in the home. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Ringsmuth" <andy () andyring com> To: "NANOG list" <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 12:24:32 PM Subject: Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that
After all - it's not like *they* are going to feel the pain of a single 106G upload, it's somebody else who feels the pain of 5 million downloads of a 106G image refresh. Economists call this sort of thing an "externality".I must admit, I'm blissfully unaware of CDN commercials, but I'd have expected that if I give a CDN my binary 100G binary blob and six people download it, I'd be billed a different amount to if six million people download it - and similarly if that blob is 1G vs 100G. I guess I'm asking if there's an underlying problem with the model here, or if it's just the details of the numbers that are "wrong" in encouraging / discouraging certain behaviours. Regards, Tim.I just wish "they" would remember that their ultimate customers don’t usually have 10G pipes - they have 6M and 10M pipes that may take hours, if not days, to download one of these mega blobs.
Uhhhh, it is 2020, not 2010. 100M, 200M, 400M or 1G is increasingly common for home broadband. I’ve got 400M at home, could get 1G fiber for less than $100 if I wanted it, and I’m in your average, run-of-the-mill Midwest city. -Andy
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