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Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them?
From: Blake Hudson <blake () ispn net>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 12:40:00 -0600
Owen DeLong wrote on 11/20/2019 11:51 AM:
I suppose a Hulu subscriber could dispute the charge or file a suit (class action?) for damages: "Hulu took my money, but didn't provide the services they advertised." As an ISP, some of us might even be in a position where we encounter losses due to Hulu's (mis)classification resulting in customers moving to the competition; I would think that would be sufficient grounds for a suit.On Nov 20, 2019, at 07:38 , Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc <mailto:beecher () beecher cc>> wrote:Never did figure out if it was stupidity or malice driving that. Personally I think it's neither; it's just $$$$$.They could invest in a robust system to accurately identify what they chose not to allow to access the service. Or, they can choose to run with a 'close enough' system with some legitimate users caught in the middle.They've most likely done the math and decided that the revenue lost from people getting caught up in inaccurate blocking is small enough that the investment in a more accurate method isn't worth it. This is unfortunately the more common decision in this age of worship at the Altar of Maximum Shareholder Value.I think you are exactly right here. It’s yet another example of how the incentives around DRM are all messed up and are creating economic bias in favor of screwing consumers as much as possible without loosing too much revenue.What is needed is either a more conscientious consumer base that will see this and react by voting with their wallets, or, regulation which provides more costly penalties for screwing over legitimate consumers.Owen
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- Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Doug McIntyre (Nov 18)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Brian Ellwood (Nov 18)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Blake Hudson (Nov 18)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Doug McIntyre (Nov 19)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Matt Hoppes (Nov 19)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Tom Beecher (Nov 19)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Valdis Klētnieks (Nov 19)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Tom Beecher (Nov 20)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Owen DeLong (Nov 20)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Blake Hudson (Nov 20)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Owen DeLong (Nov 20)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Brandon Martin (Nov 20)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Owen DeLong (Nov 21)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? William Herrin (Nov 20)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Ethan O'Toole (Nov 20)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? tim () pelican org (Nov 21)
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- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? tim () pelican org (Nov 21)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Doug McIntyre (Nov 19)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Tom Beecher (Nov 21)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? Blake Hudson (Nov 21)
- Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them? William Herrin (Nov 21)