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Re: power to the internet


From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 13:26:17 -0500

If that was a reference to my comments, it was certainly not my intention.
I was striving to avoid it being seen as that, but apparently fell short.

To reanswer the question posed though, is still the same ; $$$. If network
operators take the position that the electric utility supply should be more
reliable than it is, then they need to start influencing and lobbying for
ways for that to happen. If not, they will have to increase investments
into local generation or storage capacity to bridge those gaps.

You seem to imply that regulation is inherently bad; however the scenario
that you describe (power failures impacting 911 service) is only a concern
to an operator if there is a legislatively define deterrent.

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 13:00 Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:


On 12/26/19 7:51 AM, Mike Bolitho wrote:
I'm pretty sure political bickering is well beyond the scope of the
mailing list. Is anyone moderating this?

It certainly wasn't my intent or desire to have this turn political, and
shame on the person who did. This is a serious networking related issue
for California *right* *now*. It may become a serious networking related
issue for a lot of other places too -- California is hardly unique in
its wildland - urban interface issues, and lots of places burn just like
California. And definitely lots of places have a 100+ years of fire
suppression which is a policy thing, not a political thing.

The question is what are network operators going to do? If the answer is
"nothing", don't be surprised to get legislation shoved down your
throats. Don't expect the bay area of all places to passively put up
with all of this. If your network fails because of power going out and I
can't call 911, you've got a big, big problem.

Mike




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