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Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?)
From: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 09:15:33 -0300
On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 5:17 AM Scott Christopher <sc () ottie org> wrote:
John Curran wrote: ... As I have noted previously, I have zero doubt in the enforceability of the ARIN registration services agreements in this regard – so please carefully consider proposed policy both from the overall community benefit being sought, and from the implications faced as a number resource holder having to comply oneself with the new obligations. I completely agree that ARIN can revoke an organization's resources. Nobody has ever doubted that. What I have been saying is that if ARIN revoked Amazon's resources because of a trivial matter of bounced Abuse PoC, even if the small "community" of network operators and other interested parties passed a rule supporting this, the backlash would be *enormous* and lead to media attention, litigation, police, investigation by U.S. Congress, etc. The interests of the public affected by a global Amazon/AWS outage would greatly outweigh the rights of this small "community" which would ultimately be stripped away, I'd think. This is moot, of course, because ARIN would give ample notices and time to Amazon and they would dutifully comply. But the original poster to which I replied invited us to imagine such a situation.
I don't think that "companies with tons of lawyers" should be a factor in making resource allocation policies. But considering either small or big networks, an escalation path would reduce friction and increase overall compliance... for instance, failure to have functioning abuse PoC could lead first to being inegible to receive new resources. Rubens
Current thread:
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) John Curran (Aug 03)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Stephen Satchell (Aug 04)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Rich Kulawiec (Aug 12)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Henry Yen (Aug 12)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) James R Cutler (Aug 12)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Bruce H McIntosh (Aug 12)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Dan Hollis (Aug 15)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Rich Kulawiec (Aug 12)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) John Curran (Aug 12)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Stephen Satchell (Aug 04)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) John Curran (Aug 04)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Rubens Kuhl (Aug 04)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Scott Christopher (Aug 05)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Matthew Petach (Aug 09)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Stephen Satchell (Aug 09)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Matthew Petach (Aug 13)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Stephen Satchell (Aug 13)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Töma Gavrichenkov (Aug 04)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Sid (Aug 16)