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Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?)
From: John Curran <jcurran () arin net>
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 11:57:23 +0000
On 4 Aug 2019, at 4:16 AM, Scott Christopher <sc () ottie org<mailto:sc () ottie org>> wrote: ... What I have been saying is that if ARIN revoked Amazon's resources because of a trivial matter of bounced Abuse PoC, even if the small "community" of network operators and other interested parties passed a rule supporting this, the backlash would be *enormous* and lead to media attention, litigation, police, investigation by U.S. Congress, etc. Scott, That may be the case – for example anyone can initiate litigation for any perceived slight, whereas successful litigation is generally requires actual contractual breach or other cause of action. The interests of the public affected by a global Amazon/AWS outage would greatly outweigh the rights of this small "community" which would ultimately be stripped away, I'd think. It is possible, but far more likely an outcome in circumstances where ARIN contributed in some manner; e.g. an operational outage which was an element in the overall global event. (hence our particular care in certain areas, e.g. ensuring folks know the conditions for use of our RPKI repository, and their duty to handle NOTFOUND and fall back appropriately per best practices…) Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers
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- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) John Curran (Aug 03)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Stephen Satchell (Aug 04)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Rich Kulawiec (Aug 12)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Henry Yen (Aug 12)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) James R Cutler (Aug 12)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Bruce H McIntosh (Aug 12)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Dan Hollis (Aug 15)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Rich Kulawiec (Aug 12)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) John Curran (Aug 12)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Stephen Satchell (Aug 04)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) John Curran (Aug 04)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Rubens Kuhl (Aug 04)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Scott Christopher (Aug 05)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Matthew Petach (Aug 09)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Stephen Satchell (Aug 09)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Matthew Petach (Aug 13)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Stephen Satchell (Aug 13)
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- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Töma Gavrichenkov (Aug 04)
- Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?) Sid (Aug 16)