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Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers
From: George Herbert <george.herbert () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 10:28:30 -0700
At enterprise storage costs, that much storage will cost more than the OC-12, and then add datacenter and backups. Total could be 2-3x OC-12 annual costs. If your org can afford to buy non-top-line storage then it would probably be cheaper to go local. However, you should check how much of the bandwidth is actually storage. I see multimillion dollar projects without basic demand / needs analysis or statistics more often than not. George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 14, 2016, at 10:01 AM, George Metz <george.metz () gmail com> wrote:On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Lee <ler762 () gmail com> wrote: Yes, *sigh*, another what kind of people _do_ we have running the govt story. Altho, looking on the bright side, it could have been much worse than a final summing up of "With the current closing having been reported to have saved over $2.5 billion it is clear that inroads are being made, but ... one has to wonder exactly how effective the initiative will be at achieving a more effective and efficient use of government monies in providing technology services." Best Regards, LeeThat's an inaccurate cost savings though most likely; it probably doesn't take into account the impacts of the consolidation on other items. As a personal example, we're in the middle of upgrading my site from an OC-3 to an OC-12, because we're running routinely at 95+% utilization on the OC-3 with 4,000+ seats at the site. The reason we're running that high is because several years ago, they "consolidated" our file storage, so instead of file storage (and, actually, dot1x authentication though that's relatively minor) being local, everyone has to hit a datacenter some 500+ miles away over that OC-3 every time they have to access a file share. And since they're supposed to save everything to their personal share drive instead of the actual machine they're sitting at, the results are predictable. So how much is it going to cost for the OC-12 over the OC-3 annually? Is that difference higher or lower than the cost to run a couple of storage servers on-site? I don't know the math personally, but I do know that if we had storage (and RADIUS auth and hell, even a shell server) on site, we wouldn't be needing to upgrade to an OC-12.
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- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers George Herbert (Mar 12)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Roland Dobbins (Mar 12)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Sean Donelan (Mar 13)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers George Herbert (Mar 13)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Lee (Mar 13)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Sean Donelan (Mar 13)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Lee (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Sean Donelan (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Lee (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers George Metz (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers George Herbert (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers George Metz (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers George Herbert (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Sean Donelan (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Todd Crane (Mar 18)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers George Herbert (Mar 18)
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