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Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers
From: Lee <ler762 () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 10:53:34 -0400
On 3/13/16, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2016, Lee wrote:Where does it say test/dev has to be done solely in a cloud data center? This bit For the purposes of this memorandum, rooms with at least one server, providing services (whether in a production, test, stage, development, or any other environment), are considered data centers. seems to be more about trying to close the self-reporting loophole - ie 'these aren't the droids you're looking for.' for example - https://github.com/WhiteHouse/datacenters/issues/9Sigh, read any Inspector General report for how memorandums are implemented by auditors. If the memorandum says "or any other environment" the IG's will treat that as no exceptions. So IG's will "close the reporting loophole" by reporting that their are 100,000 "data centers" if a room contains even a single server. Auditors like counting things, they don't like interpretations. Inspector Generals are uber-auditors.
uhmmm.. yes - that's my point. No more of the "Whut? That box over there?? Oh no, that's not a server, it's an _appliance_" foot-dragging / circumvention of the cloud first policy. I doubt anyone really believes that having a server in the room makes it a data center. But if you're the Federal CIO pushing the cloud first policy, this seems like a great bureaucratic maneuver to get the decision making away from the techies that like redundant servers in multiple locations, their managers who's job rating depends on providing reliable services and even the agency CIOs. Check the reporting section of the memo where it says "each agency head shall annually publish a Data Center Consolidation and Optimization Strategic Plan". I dunno, but I'm guessing agency heads are political appointees that aren't going to spend much, if any, time listening to techies whine about how important their servers are & why they can't be consolidated, virtualized or outsourced. Lee
Current thread:
- RE: Why the US Government has so many data centers, (continued)
- RE: Why the US Government has so many data centers Steve Mikulasik (Mar 11)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Sean Donelan (Mar 11)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Florian Weimer (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Mark T. Ganzer (Mar 12)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers George Herbert (Mar 12)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Roland Dobbins (Mar 12)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Sean Donelan (Mar 13)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers George Herbert (Mar 13)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Lee (Mar 13)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Sean Donelan (Mar 13)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Lee (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Sean Donelan (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Lee (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers George Metz (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers George Herbert (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers George Metz (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers George Herbert (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Sean Donelan (Mar 14)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers Todd Crane (Mar 18)
- Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers George Herbert (Mar 18)
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