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Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
From: Rick Astley <jnanog () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 01:43:57 -0400
I have to agree with Dan in that even if you disagreed with the talk you have to agree that it probably spawned relevant discussion and reflection (both on and off list). I would hate to see a move to ideas and discussions that are chosen simply for offending the fewest people. Another sort of similar critique aimed at large routing vendors was "Help! My big expensive router is really expensive" at NANOG 60 in Atlanta. Perhaps the critiques were seen as more constructive and I don't remember the same backlash after the talk but I found both talks and various discussions that followed insightful. On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Golding <dgolding () gmail com> wrote:
Hmm - as far as whether this was a good or bad NANOG presentation...this is some of the best discussion I've seen on list in a while. There is a frank exchange of views between many different parties. This may result in some follow-up presentations at future NANOGs by IXP operators (please!). Seems that, whether you agree with Dave or not, it was successful. It also seems that the IXP operators who came under the most criticism have reacted with a lot of professionalism and maturity. Other IXP operators have reacted pretty poorly, which is ironic. Dan
Current thread:
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?, (continued)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Job Snijders (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Baldur Norddahl (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Dave Temkin (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Baldur Norddahl (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Dave Temkin (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Fredrik Korsbäck (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Arnold Nipper (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Daniel Golding (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Rick Astley (Jun 30)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Job Witteman (Jun 20)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Randy Bush (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Sander Steffann (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Randy Bush (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Seth Mattinen (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Arnold Nipper (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Will Hargrave (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Daniel Golding (Jun 16)