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Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se>
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 21:38:58 +0200 (CEST)
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016, Matt Peterson wrote:
As a community, how do we provide constructive criticism to industry suppliers (that may also be fellow competitors, members, and/or suppliers)? For example, router vendors are routinely compared without specific names mentioned (say in the case of a unpublished vulnerability) - how is a service provider any different?
I think we should have the discussion in a constructive manner.What do we want the IXPs to do? What do we want the RIRs to do? What do we want the ccTLDs to do? What do we want IANA, ISOC, IETF etc to do?
Right now they're doing things that they see as "good for the community", and not only spending money on producing their own service. They do outreach because not everybody knows about every service available. They hire community members and send them to conferences (IGF for instance) to try to achieve that governments hear from us. They spend money on research. They might spend money on acilliary services such as root/ccTLD name servers or NTP servers on the IXP.
When asking community what should be done, a wide range of different answers are given.
I don't have a problem having this discussion. I don't see it as "vendor bashing" but instead as someone who has an opinion on how things are done today.
Question is, how can it be had in a constructive manner? -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp se
Current thread:
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?, (continued)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Bryan Fields (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Randy Bush (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? William Herrin (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Daniel Golding (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? William Herrin (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Owen DeLong (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Peter Beckman (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Rich Kulawiec (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Paras Jha (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Eric Kuhnke (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mike Hammett (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Seth Mattinen (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mike Hammett (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Arnold Nipper (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Bill Woodcock (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Seth Mattinen (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Ca By (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Seth Mattinen (Jun 15)