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Re: IPv6 deployment excuses
From: Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 10:36:34 +0200
On 5 July 2016 at 07:27, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se> wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2016, Baldur Norddahl wrote: The two other technologies mentioned do the same as MAP more or less, butboth requires carrier NAT, which is expensive for the ISP and has a lack of control as seen from the end user point of view (no port forwarding etc).What it does however, is make things like GRE work. Some are surprised that there is actually non A+P protocols being used by customers. For instance legacy PPTP uses this, so some business VPNs run into problem with MAP or LW4o6.
We will tell you to use IPv6 for that or make you pay extra for a dedicated IPv4 address. Everyone else do not need to help pay for a CGN solution just because you did not move ahead with IPv6. To clarify, right now at this moment we are pure dual stack with everyone have both their own IPv4 and a /48 IPv6 prefix. But I can see some time in the not too distant future where there will be market acceptance of a solution with crippled IPv4 MAP style NAT plus full connectivity using IPv6. In fact I believe we are already there as most people really do not care as long their gmail and Facebook works. The only thing that stops me from deploying MAP is lack of vendor support. I am working on that. Regards, Baldur
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Masataka Ohta (Jul 01)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Jared Mauch (Jul 02)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Masataka Ohta (Jul 04)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Filip Hruska (Jul 04)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Masataka Ohta (Jul 04)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Baldur Norddahl (Jul 04)
- IPv6 deployment excuses Ca By (Jul 04)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Baldur Norddahl (Jul 04)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Ca By (Jul 04)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Mikael Abrahamsson (Jul 04)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Baldur Norddahl (Jul 05)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Mikael Abrahamsson (Jul 05)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Masataka Ohta (Jul 04)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Spencer Ryan (Jul 04)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 04)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Masataka Ohta (Jul 04)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Mike Hammett (Jul 05)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Jared Mauch (Jul 04)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Matt Hoppes (Jul 04)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Jared Mauch (Jul 04)
- Re: IPv6 deployment excuses Masataka Ohta (Jul 04)