Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare)

[Phil Rosenthal <pr () isprime com>]

Are you of the opinion that the victim of a DDoS attack who is not a multi-billion-dollar corporation would actually 
receive help from the FBI as a result of a DDoS attack?
In the past, I have been told that the dollar-threshold for the FBI to even consider looking at a case was at least $2M 
in damages. This was 10 years ago, and I can't imagine the threshold has gone down.

-Phil

> On Jul 28, 2016, at 12:51 PM, Naslund, Steve <SNaslund () medline com> wrote:
>
> It is not beyond the realm of law enforcement to run down the entire chain of events all the way back to the 
> “whodunit” and “howdunit”.  It is pretty amazing what they can figure out when they put their minds to it and don’t 
> underestimate what they can learn by getting someone in the hot seat under the bare light bulb.  They also have lots 
> of informants.
>
> Victim complaints don’t matter a bit to these guys, it will take the guys in the windbreakers kicking in the doors 
> one of these days.
>
> Steven Naslund
> Chicago IL
>
> > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Phil Rosenthal <pr () isprime com<mailto:pr () isprime com>> wrote:
> > Keep in mind also, the victims of these DDoS attacks do not know which "booter" service was paid to attack them. The 
> > packets do not have "Stress test provided by vBooter" in them. The attack packets do not ?>come from the booter's or 
> > Cloudflare's IP addresses, they come from secondary victims -- compromised servers, PC's infected with malware, and 
> > abused DNS/NTP [and a few other protocols] reflectors.
> >
> > It is impossible for a victim to submit a complaint to Cloudflare stating "I was attacked by someone paying 
> > vBooter", because they do not know which of the numerous "booter" services was responsible.
> >
> > -Phil