nanog mailing list archives
Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare)
From: Aaron <aaron () wholesaleinternet net>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 09:24:09 -0500
If you believe someone is doing something illegal than you should report it to law enforcement. Their job is to investigate and bring charges if they feel they are warranted. You do not have to be from the USA to report a crime in the USA.
Here is a list with contact info for the FBI's field offices: https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices
FBI Headquarters: https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/fbi-headquartersList of overseas offices for those of you not in the US that want to talk to someone local: https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/legal-attache-offices
Most network operators are not law enforcement or lawyers. Aaron On 7/28/2016 8:45 AM, Naslund, Steve wrote:
A DDoS attack is illegal. In the United States it is considered as theft of service. The legal construct used is that the DDoS attack is a theft of CPU cycles, compute resources, and power by other than the rightful owner for its intended purposes. Steven Naslund Chicago IL -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 4:30 AM To: Miles Fidelman Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 22:55:54 -0400, Miles Fidelman said:On 7/27/16 10:48 PM, Randy Bush wrote:They just lost all respect from here. Would someone from USA please report these guys to the feds? What they are doing is outright criminal.hyperbole. it is not criminal. you just don't happen to like it.Actually, as someone pointed out, it might well be conspiracy - which is criminal.In general, the conspiracy isn't criminal if the conspired act isn't criminal. If you're trying to make a criminal conspiracy out of non-criminal acts, your best bet is probably finding a new way to abuse the RICO statutes.
-- ================================================================ Aaron Wendel Chief Technical Officer Wholesale Internet, Inc. (AS 32097) (816)550-9030 http://www.wholesaleinternet.com ================================================================
Current thread:
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare), (continued)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Randy Bush (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Miles Fidelman (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Christopher Morrow (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Randy Bush (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Baldur Norddahl (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Justin Paine via NANOG (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Alain Hebert (Jul 28)
- RE: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Naslund, Steve (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Aaron (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Paul WALL (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Paras Jha (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Miles Fidelman (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Niels Bakker (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Miles Fidelman (Jul 28)
- RE: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Naslund, Steve (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Phil Rosenthal (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) chris (Jul 28)
- RE: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Naslund, Steve (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Phil Rosenthal (Jul 28)