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Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality?


From: Lyle Giese <lyle () lcrcomputer net>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:22:46 -0600

It leaves more data available to use within your data plan, but may reduce bandwidth available to you to actually use. In other words, you may find your billed usage unusable due to lack of usable bandwidth.

'Oh it's free, I will set my phone to stream all Monty Python movies continuously.'

But I think this answer is more in line with the intent of your question, why would someone want to try to startup a new service that doesn't fit within the guidelines of these 'free' services.

Lyle Giese
LCR Computer Services, Inc.

On 11/20/2015 12:30 PM, Joly MacFie wrote:
​Logic tells me that, if the major incumbents content doesn't count against
the cap, this leaves more bandwidth for other applications​. What am I
missing?

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Blake Hudson <blake () ispn net> wrote:

It's not. And that's the point.

This proposal, and ones similar, stifle growth of applications. If there
are additional (artificial) burdens for operating in a field it becomes
harder to get into. Because it's harder to get into, fewer operators
compete. [Note, we just reduced open competition, one tenet of Net
Neutrality]  Because there are fewer operators there will be less
competition. Less competition increases prices and fewer customers take the
service. Because few people use the application, the network operator has
no incentive to support the application well.  [Note, we just reduced the
freedom to run applications] Because the network doesn't support the
application well, few people use the application. It's circular and it
slows growth.

Just because there may be inherent challenges to offering an application
(bandwidth, for example), doesn't mean that adding another one (per
application bandwidth caps) is desirable.


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