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Re: Working with Spamhaus


From: Michael O Holstein <michael.holstein () csuohio edu>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:40:18 +0000

Le sigh ..

Hotmail/Outlook/Live
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/getsupport?oaspworkflow=start_1.0.0.0&wfname=capsub&productkey=edfsmsbl3&locale=en-us

Google/Gmail
https://support.google.com/mail/contact/bulk_send_new?rd=1

AOL
https://postmaster.aol.com/trouble-ticket

Yahoo
https://io.help.yahoo.com/contact/index?page=contact&locale=en_US&y=PROD_MAIL_ML#

As for SORBS, I'm not aware of anyone that uses it these days because of the extortion thing and the rather ..ahem .. 
"eccentric" nature of it's owner.

Regards,

Michael Holstein
Cleveland State University
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From: Ricky Beam <jfbeam () gmail com>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 6:41 PM
To: Michael O Holstein
Subject: Re: Working with Spamhaus

On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:59:55 -0400, Michael O Holstein
<michael.holstein () csuohio edu> wrote:
100 spammy messages isn't enough to get you in trouble, as long as it
stops there.

I see you've never had the pleasure of dealing with SORBS. All it takes is
*ONE* message - EVER - to be instantly, and forever, listed in their
spamtraps list. Getting on the list is automatic and immediate. There are
no thresholds or limits; and there's expiration. The only way off that
list is to PAY them to remove you. (which makes it illegal in most places.
The corporate sharks flipped when I pointed them to that "policy".)

as were the other major players (MS, Google, AOL, Yahoo) by just filling
out their postmaster forms.

What "postmaster forms"? Those 4 are the most *impossible* companies with
whom I've ever tried to interact. I *know* there are people at Google but
I'll be damned if there's a way to reach any of them.

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