Re: Input Regarding Cogent and NTT

[Alistair Mackenzie <magicsata () gmail com>]

Don't be surprised if cogent contact you for even posting this.

They did it to me when I asked for hibernia.
On 5 Feb 2015 19:16, "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:

> Working on it. ;-)
>
> Being an eyeball network, most of my traffic just goes to NetFlix, Akamai,
> LimeLight, FaceBook, Google, etc. anyway. Peer what you can peer, Cogent
> for customer routes, then grab a couple nicer carriers and call it a day.
>
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> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
> To: nanog () nanog org
> Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2015 12:54:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Input Regarding Cogent and NTT
>
> By that logic, and giving you the benefit of the doubt that you follow
> your own advice, you have 15-20 upstreams?
>
> I've never tried that on a standard network with BGP as the only tool. See
> any interesting operational stuff with that many upstreams?
>
> Also, while many people knock Cogent, I would submit that many people have
> bad first-hand experiences with Cogent (including me).
>
> Every network has its bad days. Even the best companies screw customers
> from time-to-time. But the preponderance of evidence is a useful guidepost.
> Cogent is large, but does not have even half the customers NTT has. Do
> "lots of people knock NTT"? Given NTT's much larger number of customers,
> shouldn't that mean they have more knocks?
>
> If not, I submit the disparity is a useful datapoint when choosing a
> provider.
>
> --
> TTFN,
> patrick
>
> Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos.
>
>
> > On Feb 5, 2015, at 12:29, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:
> >
> > A lot of people knock Cogent, but the best way to get to Cogent's
> customer's is probably through Cogent. Given that they do have a very large
> network, they're worth picking up even if you only use them for customer
> routes.
> > -----
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Jack Stonebraker" <Jack.Stonebraker () mygrande com>
> > To: nanog () nanog org
> > Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2015 11:24:59 AM
> > Subject: Input Regarding Cogent and NTT
> >
> > My organization is currently shopping for some additional Transit
> Capacity to augment our existing interconnects. We've got around 8 distinct
> AS's that we're receiving transit routes from, followed by a handful of
> Public IX's and Private PNI's to AS's that warrant them. That said, the
> networks that are on our radar are Cogent and NTT. I've done some due
> diligence poking around on their Looking Glass, but I'd love to hear any
> user experiences from the community, both from a Layer 3 Perspective, as
> well as an Operational Perspective (Working with the businesses
> themselves). Feel free to contact me off-list and thanks in advance for
> your time.
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> >
> > Jack Stonebraker | Sr. IP Network Engineer
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> john.hogan () mygrande com>
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