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Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?
From: "Majdi S. Abbas" <msa () latt net>
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:10:01 -0500
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 03:50:03PM -0500, John R. Levine wrote:
I believe you, but I don't believe that the set of ntp.org servers changes so rapidly that it is beyond the ability of network operators to handle the ones on their own networks as a special case.
I think you'd be surprised. I have to say I've been shocked at how little most network operators appear to understand about how NTP actually works, and how little thought is going into the consequences of suggested filtering techniques. Has anyone considered the implications of a world where your customers cannot correlate timestamps on abuse reports because you decided you knew better than they did how, and which sources of time they would be allowed to use? NTP works best with a diverse set of peers. You know, outside your little bubble, or walled garden, or whatever people in this thread appear to be trying to build. I'm not sure what to call it, but it's definitely not the Internet. --msa
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- Re: BCP38 is hard, was TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?, (continued)
- Re: BCP38 is hard, was TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP? Octavio Alvarez (Feb 04)
- Re: BCP38 is hard, was TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP? Mark Andrews (Feb 04)
- Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP? Damian Menscher (Feb 04)
- Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP? Joel M Snyder (Feb 03)
- Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP? John R. Levine (Feb 03)
- Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP? Jared Mauch (Feb 03)
- Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP? John R. Levine (Feb 03)
- Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP? Joe Greco (Feb 03)
- Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP? Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 03)
- Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP? Doug Barton (Feb 03)
- Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP? Majdi S. Abbas (Feb 03)
- Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP? Doug Barton (Feb 03)
- Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP? Blake Dunlap (Feb 04)
- Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP? John R. Levine (Feb 03)