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Re: responding to DMARC breakage
From: Jim Popovitch <jimpop () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 18:12:10 -0400
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Dave Crocker <dhc2 () dcrocker net> wrote:
On 4/12/2014 2:38 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote:On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net> wrote: someone needs to get a legal opinion wrt the DMARC group's effort to have all mailinglists change their From: address."The DMARC group" (presumably referring to the dmarc.org informal consortium that created DMARC) is conducting no such effort. The action taken this past week was an independent effort by Yahoo. dmarc.org had nothing to do with it.
I wasn't writing about their website, rather the motivations of the core participants of the DMARC spec (that hang out around that website). If you haven't been paying attention all along, it's easy to miss the changes from the original DMARC objectives. Sometime after the first draft, DMARC went from only being for transactional email (i.e. behind the scenes stuff), to full blown end-all of spam with DMARC appearing on every tech blog and even CNN. That train's been barreling down the track for some time now. I posted this earlier, but for refresher: Go here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base/ Notice the early versions of the spec contained the word "transactional", notice the current version has it removed. Also notice that (at the point of change) one of the authors is from Yahoo!. What Yahoo! did wasn't a fluke, nor independent happenstance, it's part of a much bigger and broader picture. The ironic thing is that rather than go the IETF way (a fair amount of the DMARC folk are past IETF contributors), the decision was made to not seek peer consensus, nor to invalidate conflicting RFCs. An end run. -Jim P.
Current thread:
- responding to DMARC breakage Miles Fidelman (Apr 12)
- Re: responding to DMARC breakage William Herrin (Apr 12)
- Re: responding to DMARC breakage Miles Fidelman (Apr 12)
- Re: responding to DMARC breakage Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 12)
- Re: responding to DMARC breakage Miles Fidelman (Apr 12)
- Re: responding to DMARC breakage Jim Popovitch (Apr 12)
- Re: responding to DMARC breakage Dave Crocker (Apr 12)
- Re: responding to DMARC breakage Jim Popovitch (Apr 12)
- Re: responding to DMARC breakage Miles Fidelman (Apr 12)
- Re: responding to DMARC breakage Miles Fidelman (Apr 12)
- Re: responding to DMARC breakage Matthew Petach (Apr 13)
- Re: responding to DMARC breakage Miles Fidelman (Apr 13)
- Re: responding to DMARC breakage William Herrin (Apr 12)
- Re: responding to DMARC breakage Joly MacFie (Apr 12)
- Re: responding to DMARC breakage Jim Popovitch (Apr 12)