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Re: De-funding the ITU
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:39:17 -0800
On Jan 13, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Barry Shein <bzs () world std com> wrote:
Even if there were no ITU we'd have to invent one, to paraphrase Voltaire's quip about God. There'd have to be some organization to negotiate and oversee international settlements and other, similar, regulations.
Why? The internet has operated just fine without such for quite some time now.
And it would probably end up being about the same because who'd be involved but about the same people and organizations (particularly the PTTs et al)?
Which is a good argument that such an organization has, in fact, become an anachronism.
If you sincerely wanted to get rid of the ITU or pieces thereof the only way would be to form some alternative organization, perhaps with different policy and process rules, and use it to supplant them.
If you don't believe that the internet is in the process of supplanting traditional telephony, you aren't paying attention. The internet has had such organizations for some time now. The petition specifically focuses on moving US funding from the ITU to those organizations (which does give me pauseā¦ I think I prefer the organizations in question not being purchased by the USG).
Actually, no matter how you got rid of the ITU that's what you'd end up with because much of what they do would happen somehow, but without a real plan probably by even worse means like shadowy inter-PTT organizations arising without any accountability or transparency.
Such organizations would be scattered and far less effective. I would rather take my chances against them than the current ITU structure. Owen
Current thread:
- De-funding the ITU Bill Woodcock (Jan 12)
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- Re: De-funding the ITU james jones (Jan 12)
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- Re: De-funding the ITU bmanning (Jan 12)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: De-funding the ITU John Levine (Jan 12)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Fred Baker (fred) (Jan 12)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Bill Woodcock (Jan 12)
- Re: De-funding the ITU bmanning (Jan 13)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Bill Woodcock (Jan 13)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Barry Shein (Jan 13)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Owen DeLong (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU John Levine (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Nick Hilliard (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Wayne E Bouchard (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Eliot Lear (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Fred Baker (fred) (Jan 12)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Owen DeLong (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Bill Woodcock (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Nick Hilliard (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Owen DeLong (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Nick Hilliard (Jan 15)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Eric Brunner-Williams (Jan 14)