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Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats
From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:25:53 -0500
On Jan 10, 2013, at 10:17 AM, "Jima" <nanog () jima tk> wrote:
On Thu, January 10, 2013 7:53 am, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:As for v6 how popular do you see it getting for mail?Are you implying that when the internet otherwise moves on to IPv6, we'll still inexplicably use IPv4 for mail?
IMHO mail is one of the easiest "first things" to turn on for IPv6. Nobody is going to really notice a 1s delay if they connect() and you're not listening on IPv6 but are on IPv4. There are concerns from the spam/blacklist communities that IPv6 will make it too hard to roll-up spam information, so many enterprises will likely stick to IPv4 along the long-tail of deployment as it will nearly always work. I also see lots of people with 2002: address in my mail-log relying on 6to4 gateways, e.g.: puck:~$ host doors.huapi.net.ar doors.huapi.net.ar has address 190.136.177.222 doors.huapi.net.ar has address 168.83.68.202 doors.huapi.net.ar has IPv6 address 2002:be88:b1de::1 puck:~$ host warner.fm warner.fm has address 66.59.109.136 warner.fm has IPv6 address 2002:423b:6d88::1 warner.fm mail is handled by 10 argo.pyxos.net. puck:~$ host x25.se. x25.se has address 83.227.190.248 x25.se has IPv6 address 2002:53e3:bef8::1 x25.se mail is handled by 1 x25.se. I suspect folks will run these sorts of gateways for some time.. - Jared
Current thread:
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats, (continued)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats John Levine (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Jon Lewis (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Julian DeMarchi (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats William Herrin (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Joe Provo (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Chris Adams (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Dave Sparro (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Jima (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Jared Mauch (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats John Levine (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Daniel Taylor (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats joel jaeggli (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Dave Sparro (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Karl Auer (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Matthias Leisi (Jan 10)